Now zoom back in and try to find the thing that’s seeing.
This raises questions like how can I possibly look at the point I'm looking from? What is being seen is all that can be seen. There is seeing then the narrative "I am seeing the apple" rather than the "apple is seen". Not sure if this is what was meant to happen but frustration arose from trying to look inward because it seemed impossible.
Is there seeing separate from what’s seen, or is there just what’s seen?
Only what is seen. The seer comes after through thought.
Is there any awareness separate from experience or is there just experience?
Only experience. Thoughts appear totake ownership for experience and attach it to 'I'.
Are there two things?
There is only experience. However this raises a question. I've heard that once seen you realise you are the world. So essentially you become that which you see. You see yourself in a flower. I don't quite experience this. I just see that which is seen and then the thoughts "I am seeing the 'lamp'" when it reality it is just shape and colour.
In 'hearing' can anything be found other than 'what can be heard'?
Only that which is heard.
Can what is doing the hearing be found? Or is there only 'what can be heard'?
I cannot find anything beyond what is heard.
An 'I'? a 'body'? a 'person'? A brain? a pair of ears?
These cannot be found in experience without looking at thought.
Can these be found doing the hearing? Or is there just 'what can be heard'?
Only what is heard, anything else is a thought about the sound.
What do you find?
Only sound. Thoughts describing and claiming the sound.
Can an INHERENT HEARER be found?
No just emptiness and sound filling it.
Would anything that is suggested as the hearer, be anything other than a concept/idea/thought?
Does not seem to be the possible. Experience is all that can be looked at, simple experience. Thoughts label and claim it all and convince me that there is more to it.
Who or what is putting this label - "Everything that is experienced."
Thought trying to explain the word awareness after having read about it or being told about it from spiritual teachers.
What is awareness when is looked at here now?
Awareness is a thought about this. By being here awareness is just a word trying to make sense of it.
Is there such a thing as awareness at all?
It appears that it is another concept/idea/thought.
Is there a difference between mind and awareness?
No. Mind is a concept/idea/thought, awareness is a concept/idea/thought.
Mind is a concept and awareness is what?
A concept as well.
It feels stronger after looking. More clear and I realised that being this way does not mean emotions/sensations will go away or the mind will suddenly get quiet and be zen when shit goes wrong but rather it is seen as what the mind does. It is less personal. I don't think no-self was seen but it seems easier to just watch experience now.