Hi Vince,
I don't have a Facebook account, so I guess I'd better get busy finding out how to do it..!
It's late here so might have to be in the morning, but I'm on it.
See you there.
love
will

Thank you Vince.
Walking on the hill this evening, some thoughts, feeling this ...newness. Seeing how assumptions, concepts, are so deeply stuck in place. I'd stopped at "everything is consciousness". That cool wise concept, unquestioned, taken as true & obvious, and the ongoing crisis of trying to ...

Sorry Will. i got a bit distracted.
No worries.
Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

No. There is no separate self. There is an unquestioned core belief that the habitual thought "I", "me", refers to an actual separate entity ...

Hi Vince,
It's been a few days.... Do you have any more questions for me?
Cheers,
Will

This thread isn't supposed to be a journal I know, but this is just rolling as it's rolling....

OK - no "pop". It's not an issue. It's more like a slow dawning, with storms.
The "I" with the expectations, who is wanting the nice experience, is the seeker.
The seeking habit has been in place a long ...

"curiosity/excitement about where this is going" -
I didn't mean to imply this is missing. Far from it :-)

Hi Vince
Are doubts anything other than just more thoughts. Do these thoughts deserve any more credibility than other non-useful thoughts ?


There are doubts and they do of course come as thoughts, such as "I think I'm losing it" . Normal life resumes and the rosy glow following the initial ...

Seeming is well and truly over the start line.
Not sure why the anonymity - usual name is will.
Doubts and fears abound, then they don't, then they do. Programming, beliefs, story. Years and years of fruitless muddled seeking, then so simply ("too simply - can't be what's being pointed to, surely ...

When you stopped believing that he was real, what happened to that belief ?
Did it morph into a belief that he is not real ?

Yes, but reluctantly. Initially there were doubts. It wasn't a sudden thing.

Does that belief still exist but with another belief that the first belief is wrong ? (that is ...

There is a leaning away from thinking and towards JUST LOOKING.
Rough day yesterday, hardly slept the night before, worrying about this. Reminiscent of essay deadline pressure at Uni. Head banging.
I just wanted a break from it all. But there's no letting it go now, and I found myself re-reading the ...

Now, consider this; You once believed in Santa.
When you stopped believing that he was real, what happened to that belief ?
Did it morph into a belief that he is not real ?
Does that belief still exist but with another belief that the first belief is wrong ? (that is that there are now two beliefs ...

Hi Vince

I'd just written this when your reply arrived.
I have to go to the workshop now but will respond to yours later.

Thoughts arising this morning -

That whole I AM THAT thing...
It has a powerful resonance because it feels "true" (go with me a minute). Instinctively recognised but not ...

The emotions come from believing the content of the story. Once the snake is seen to be a piece of rope the adrenalin rush fades. How does belief work ?
How do we stay blind to this stuff ? Once seen it becomes obvious, but somehow we never question it. How does this work ?

Beliefs are the ...

Not quite figured out the URL function --

http://ruthlesstruthdotcom.blogspot.co. ... -song.html

is there, can there be, anything that is Real, other than current experiencing ? ..or to juxtapose that, can there be anything other than current experiencing, that is not concept ? Not thoughts ABOUT it
Yes, current experiencing is all that can be called real. I sat with this for quite a while ...