HI Behzad
Yes I'm sure the group would be helpful. My facebook is facebook.com/kenmorganonline

Thanks for all your help
Love
Ken

Hi Behzad

Could you please elaborate by what you mean by "squashed any possible objections." ?


Maybe my choice of words was not so good!

It means that whereas before thoughts would arise which imply a controller, like for example "I'd like to be more in direct experience and less in internal ...

Hi Behzad

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

There is and never was any separate "self" in any shape or form. It's just a concept which thoughts create and which doesn't actually refer to anything real.

2) Explain in ...

Hi Behzad

Can you look and see when the thought arise that says that I want to stay with the presence. Is that refering to an entity that can do that or is it just another thought that comes and goes?


No, there's no entity there.There was no self before and there's no self now. Even so ...

Dear Behzad
Thanks for your detailed reply and your persistence in directing me back to direct experience. I will go to work as you say and give a reply tomorrow.
Regards
Ken

Hi Behzad

When all this thoughts, beliefs that happen in the thought stream is seen as life happening, they simply dont belong to you because there is no you then all this action that goes on in the thought stream dont get intresting anymore and there is no more belief in them and you can ...

Hi Behzad
Life is continuing to happen. Not sure as yet what the ramifications are of seeing self doesn't exist. It seems quite subtle - more relaxation associated with what is happening.

Do you have any doubts about this self stuff, is anything unclear?

There aren't any doubts about the self ...

Hi Behzad

I've continued to look. There is nothing I can find beyond the stream of perceptions, thoughts and feelings. There is no one controlling the stream. But the continuing stream of thoughts commenting on the process gives the impression of an "I" who is in control. The thoughts lead to ...

Hi Behzad

So help me out man, have you really been looking at all the questions or have you been sitting on youre I KNOW CHAIR and just giving me answers that you belive/think is right?

I'm definitely looking but describing what I see in words is not so easy and no doubt the way I describe what ...

Hi Behzad

How do you see thoughts? Do the thoughts belong to you?
Is there a thinker of thoughts?

Thoughts arise spontaneously and are self-aware without there being any thinker and without belonging to anyone.

And how do you see other people?

Not sure what you're asking here? They're seen ...

Hi Behzad,
Excuse me if I'm not seeing what you are pointing at!

Try to follow me here Ken, is it really awareness that knows thoughts, feelings, experiences and so on? This is very subtle so dont hurry here. You need to look in direct experience. IS IT REALLY AWARENESS that knows thoughts ...

Hi Behzad
I dont mean what arises in awareness. Let me see so we are on the same page. For me Awareness is synonymous with presence, consciousness, being, the sense of I am, existence. Are we talking about the same thing?

I understand presence and awareness to be the same - the knowing quality of ...

Hi Behzad

So can you deepen the awareness ?

I will keep looking closely at what arises, at what is real in awareness.

Is there anything you control?

I seem to have intention and make decisions like meeting with you on Liberation Unleashed. But actually the whole process is a mystery. There ...

Is there anyone here to see the truth?

There is no "I" to see it. There is an awareness present in these experiences but the awareness itself has no story. It's impersonal.

Good, all this is happening. Can you take a look and see if there is anyone all this happen to or are they simply just ...

Hi Behzad
Now, open youre eyes and look if you can see that person here in direct experience. Is that person that wants to see the no self, that wants to awaken here in youre direct experience?
Is there a self here outside of the story of you?
And is the story of you real, is it really happening ...