Wonderful Bruce!

I am delighted with this conversation. For me (and some other guides) it seems that you have a clear seeing of no self. Which in fact was already their so congratulations with nothing :). It was a pleasure to be guiding you, but also here you did all the work, so the honours go ...

Okay, many thanks again. Wonderful to read. I am going to be thorough with you.

My body will (hopefully!) remain relatively similar in appearance;

If the body isn't 'yours' why and what is this 'hope?

Look in a mirror for me and describe in direct experience what is seen? Then look at a photo ...

Thanks Bruce, I like your description. I've got two more questions for you.

Is the body the perceiver, or is the body perceived?

In direct experience is there a sense of inside/outside?

other people's memories/experiences/thoughts .
Are your memories yours? Do you own memories/ experiences/ thoughts? What is there in direct experience? How is this for others?


My hand feels more like "mine" because it's been there all my life, and is used constantly as a way for this body to ...

Yesterday I looked at my hand and for the first time thought of it as myself; not "my hand", but my self.

Maybe it is just words, but what do you mean by this sentence?

Is self = body?
Is it your body? How is ownership seen in direct experience?

I've got 4 more questions for you. answer as deeply as you can. Avoid short, 1 sentence answers if possible. really feel free to rant away.

1) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

2 ...

What's it like to see this?

Now, that the illusion is seen through, what is left? What are the experiences in daily life?

So is there an ilussion? If so, what is it?

Are there any doubts?

sorry, first part is misquoted.

It is an expectation; no, the content isn't true.

It's an odd thought, really; its not like other feelings where if I feel "anxious" there are real physical changes in heart rate/sweatiness/shaking that the label points to; dissatisfaction has no reality outside of a concept in thought and ...

My first thought of that description of experience is "that can't possibly be all there is to it, that's so unsatisfying."

So, what does this thought tell you? Is this an expectation? Is the content of this thought true?

It just feels so odd to have all this stuff going on and no 'canvas' for ...

So what is the experience when you look?

What is there now?

If you are not able to answer, because you can't find a quiet place and find some time to look, just do it when you get back from your trip.

If you do have a quiet place. Just look and describe what's there.

Look. Is there something missing in direct experience?

Thanks for notifying you might not make it regularly.

So, what is missing?

Please tell your expectations of " it" in detail.

Now, in your direct experiences, which are the senses prior to thought; seeing, hearing, feeling, smelling, tasting. Can you actually find an agent who is doing this ...

To use an example that I think I already used, if a car backfires and I flinch it's pretty easy to understand the chain of cause and effect in that process. There is a loud noise, and the brain tells the body to react defensively; there isn't much room for a story of intent to slip in. If, however ...