I was expecting an email notification to say that you had replied but haven't received one.

Vince has offered to take over. All the best.

How can the truth not be seen permanently? What untruth is being seen?

So just see.

See the effect that thoughts have. The rest will take care of itself. Just keep coming back to seeing.

Watching without a watcher

Does the body experience, or is the body an aspect of experience?

Try to find something other than experience here and now.
Then when that's finished, try to find here and try to find now!

There are only thoughts of suffering.
Or suffering type thoughts.

Until the thoughts arise, is there anything other than experience?
If those thoughts never arose, in what form would suffering exist?

Hi
Sorry for the lack of reply.
I actually wrote out a long response in regards to your son and your situation, but then deleted it as I didn't want to sidetrack you, because the truth is, it doesn't really matter.
None of it does.

I know that may be strange, or even hard, to hear, as your son ...

Do you know if your son, who speaks very little language, thinks in language the way that we do?
I'm not sure that it would even be possible to know?

Does he tend to just experience without analysing?
Does he seem to suffer from anxiety etc?

Hi James good to hear from you.

I would say I am engaged in watching more than before - asking myself what's going on when things occur which would be labelled embarrassment or jealousy etc. And observing physical sensations or whatever is present. This tends to release the feelings very quickly ...

Hi Charles.

I'll help if I can. Have you been dropping concepts and just "watching" since your last post?

It's very easy to get caught up in thoughts, and that will never really go away, but are you continuously coming back to just seeing?

I would suggest no longer looking, in the sense that you are trying to find something, and instead just seeing, ie, just continuously noticing "what is" without judgement.

When we look for something, we tend to conceptualise, but when we just see, then the process tends to take care of itself.

The only thing that you can do is to continue to keep seeing. The more that is seen, the more that continues to be seen, if that makes sense.

Don't get too caught up in the whole no-self thing. It is much more a tool than it is an ultimate reflection of reality.

It helps to see that thoughts are ...

In my experience, when the process started, the thoughts that caused and accompanied those negative physical sensations, therefore becoming negative emotions, were seen for what they really are.

When they were continuously seen for what they are, and the negative implications of them was ...

I propose that if thoughts of objection arise, then they arise, as there is no one or nothing to chose them or reject them, and if certain physical sensations arise alongside those thoughts, then you have what is commonly labelled as suffering.

Those thoughts and physical sensations will arise or ...

You originally replied

"Like all stories, it can be read or put down, believed or ignored."

Is that true? Is that possible?

What is suffering? Suffering is the story that accompanies a sense of self. Like all stories, it can be read or put down, believed or ignored.

What is there to read it, put it down, believe it, or ignore it?

What is meaning? Relative understanding of aspects of experience, without utility ...