HI Hursh,

As a PS to my last post, here is a video clip which you might find interesting. Whilst not intended to replace our own exploration into this question, the British scientist/mathematician explores the issue of free will and takes part in some experiments including one interesting one ...

HI Hursh,

Great. This matter of 'whether thoughts decide anything' is a really fascinating investigation, and it's really something which can be pursued post gate for further looking, as can many issues which come up. But as it has come up let's pursue just a little, ok?

Yes, of course ...

HI Hursh

Good to hear from you again.

To see where we're up to, might be interesting for you to answer the 5th question again from the summary questions:-
5) Do you decide, intend, choose, control events in Life? Do you make anything happen? Please try to describe the process as best you can ...

ok look out for a private message from me, Jay.
Let me know if for any reason you don't receive one within a few hours.

Cheers

Mark

Hi Jay

That's great, thanks for those answers.

I hope my answers are good enough (T) lol
Loving the spontaneity.

So just stand by. I'm going to get a couple of other guides to have a read through and see whether they have any further questions for you. Not sure how long that will take.

I'll be ...

HI Jay

Here are the summing-up questions. Please take your time with them and just answer them spontaneously, honestly and as fully as you can, from your present experience (i.e. practice rather than theory):-

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or ...

Hi Jay

Nice one. Good points:-

What time to experience that is not in (T)? Have a check now.
What space to experience that is not in (T)? Have a check now.
Let me know what comes up in actual firsthand experience.

THen we'll take it from there. (These can also be looked at post-gate if you prefer ...

Hi Jay

Great!

Regarding bodily sensations, still feeling the energy moving inside the body as I keep looking for this illusory "I". But there is a sense of an I still here but I guess that sense/being is always going to be there and is actually unmoving.
If the belief that this was 'I, rather ...

Hi Jay

Great answers.

So, bearing in mind the image of the stream, the (lack of) autnomous intervening into life, the wiggling-finger experience, Can you find anything in Life that 'you' are truly responsible for? Or does it all just kind of 'auto-happen'? Have a good look, see if you can find ...

Ok Jay,

Great work again.

That is right I cannot find an individual "I" in experience.
Oh dear, better look harder!

Let me know if you can find a controller in that walking up and down, getting up and sitting down.

Now, let's look to see if we can find any autonomous chooser there:-

Imagine ...

Hi Jay,

Great responses!

So, in firsthand actual now experience, looks as though no individual "I" can be found, right? .. but let's keep looking.

Sitting here going over the last exercise some more I feel alot of energy moving around inside the body, it is stirring up but I guess this is off ...

Ok, Jay

The sense of aliveness itself is what is being seen as an "I".
Is it possible that this sense of 'aliveness' (for want of a better word) has been assumed (ie (T) ) to be "I"? .. when in actual fact it was just the sense of 'aliveness' (or 'being', 'being alive'.. or some other groping ...

Hi Jay

Thanks for those responses.

I cannot locate this "Jay" but in a bundle of thoughts, these thoughts are so strong and magnetising that I cannot help but feel "I" am here somewhere.
A bundle of thoughts so strong that you can't help FEELING "I" am here somewhere, or you can't helping ...

Hi Jay

Ok, that's great.

So what in all that list is actually (E). If you look behind the labels in an item which you labelled (E), what is the actual (E) part? Can you try to get at that in words (even though it's kind of contradictory because words involve thought).

What is 'Jay', (or "I", "me ...

Hi Jay

Great

"Jay" seems to be in experience but at the same time he cannot arise unless thought assumes his existence

Not sure about what you mean by 'arise': this reminds me a little bit of spiritual-teaching lingo. Wondering exactly what you are meaning by this word. Appearing? Seeming to be ...