Ive found since I've started this ive resonated with a lot of what adyashanti described of the awakening process. That is, pretty much failing at everything to try and awaken. What is the typical process after liberation with the people who go through the gate here? I ask because I wonder if the ...

Hi ZOC,

I haven't been getting the email prompts for some reason. Sorry about that.

You stopped replying right after that 3-0 loss a few weeks back. I thought the ego had got the better of you! :D

Nice! :) You see that the "I" really is an idea. Cool. And seeing that, and knowing that, its ...

Hi John,

havent heard from you in a while. Hope everything is ok.

I'll keep looking in the meantime. :-)

Spot on. See that frame and notice the frame showing up in a wider space/awareness. Just as the things in the room show up in a wider space/awareness. And the sense of self shows up in a wider space/awareness.

Immerse yourself in this wider space/awareness. Just for a minute.

Are you nothing ...

Hi ZOC,

Let's look at If what I really am is nothing, then great!

What is the "I" in this sentence pointing to? What ideas are behind that "I" in the sentence? Write what comes up immediately.

experience. i don't really know. the one that is 'stuck' in this experience of being identified with ...

It's one thing to "know what we really are" and another to "know what we're not".

If you set off (which many do) with a goal to "know what we really are" - good luck. :)

I understand what you are saying. I don't expect to find any'thing' though, and that's kinda my point. If what I really am is ...

Hehe. A good rant clears up some space :)

Honestly I dont think ive wanted to see the truth more. I have to know for myself what this is all about. What am I reaaally.?!

a lot of this search, like most people, has been motivated by suffering and wanting to feel better. Now its just to know what ...

ok, so i don't have an understanding of how these things relate and come together.

So there is no 'thing' at the centre of experience. It's life living as a human for a while. All happening by itself.

I can see easily how ego could take the role of awareness, Yet... emotions are felt, the seen ...

i think if i answer this honestly...

there is nothing there. empty space, ungraspable. then mind jumps in to say ok if this is really seen then the mind wouldn't be producing so much "me" crap. lol

i think too there is an expectation that i will feel like awareness. Airy, presencey, or something ...

Hi John,

thanks for talking with me the other day. A couple of days later I was driving home from work and had a long conversation with myself, lol.

The main focus in the conversation was about suffering. I had previously read Ilona's blog post about "where is the sufferer?". I'd read it many ...

dunno, lol. the whole thing is disorientating and i feel quite lost with it all.

Milk,no sugar for me thanks :)

Sounds good :)

Hey john,

Will do this this morning.

Random question...

Would you be free to 'flashchat' today for a little while?? (if u think it would be useful)

Dunno, just feel drawn to it today. might help clear the path a little? :)

Relaxing. There's a place in the heart of hearts that knows that "me" is a social construct AND there is the everyday sense and pretence of "me" as me. Such is the friction of seeking, as forever it shall be.

let's hope it ends soon! :/

Just like in the Matrix, Neo sees the agents as data and ...