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by dementeddigital
Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:59 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: No self help
Replies: 33
Views: 5693

Re: No self help

So this construct of mind creates the label "I" to weigh experience against. This label "I" is an illusion. The question comes up, "Who is it that is tricked by this illusion of a self?" It seems that the entity which is tricked by this illusion of self is the mind that created it. The mind creates ...
by dementeddigital
Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:59 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: No self help
Replies: 33
Views: 5693

Re: No self help

Gidday Dan, vince here.
Who constructed the concept of aliens ? of unicorns ?
What does it matter the origin of a concept ? If you want to theorise that a self did the construction, how will you ever know ?
Try this; everything outside of experiencing is a story (from the perspective of the mind ...
by dementeddigital
Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:43 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: No self help
Replies: 33
Views: 5693

Re: No self help

It only seems to loop. Each thought is singular. It's not possible to go back and forth or loop. When a new thought comes up which seems to recall a previous thought, or repeat a thought. It is a fresh, new, thought. Every time. See that. Each one comes and goes without hooking onto anything. So ...
by dementeddigital
Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:57 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: No self help
Replies: 33
Views: 5693

Re: No self help

Hey again.... :)

"I don't know if this is going to ultimately break my loops. I think that I have a good conceptual understanding of it, but I need to make it my default level of being. (Any pointers on how to do that?) I hope that the awareness stops the loops before they start, but I won't know ...
by dementeddigital
Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:56 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: No self help
Replies: 33
Views: 5693

Re: No self help

Good morning Dan...

Something has caught our eye, in the last part of your response...

"I think that I have a good conceptual understanding of it,.."

Who has a conceptual understanding of this?

And, What is the difference you notice now compared to before?

Again please elaborate on these in ...
by dementeddigital
Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:35 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: No self help
Replies: 33
Views: 5693

Re: No self help

Hey Dan...

Good Work on finding that R.T. thread! So we finally cleared up the awareness vs. self issue, so it all boils down to seeing behind the "Vail" of thought, and realizing pure awareness...That's all!

I know that sometimes these things just take the right word, phrase, or inflection to ...
by dementeddigital
Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:20 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: No self help
Replies: 33
Views: 5693

Re: No self help

Trying to break it down would lead into more thought, wouldn't it? But that's just spinning. Forget all about thought and where is the "I"?

There never was anything tangible that could be identified as an "I." It's not body or mind, for sure. The last remaining doubt I had was that "self" could ...
by dementeddigital
Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:04 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: No self help
Replies: 33
Views: 5693

Re: No self help

What happens if you stop there? Really look at that. Pause and look.

Once that is done, I'll come back to answer your second question.

Thanks!

Now that this is sinking in a bit, I'm not sure that it needs to be broken down more. That realization itself feels liberating. It's different, but it ...
by dementeddigital
Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:10 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: No self help
Replies: 33
Views: 5693

Re: No self help

Dan! That's pretty awesome. Why not stop there? :)

Is that all there is? If I stop there, am I missing another layer of the onion? Is that REALLY the root of it?

Is there a creator of the constructs? If so, isn't another name for it, "thought"?

Thought works. So if the present is all there is ...
by dementeddigital
Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:50 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: No self help
Replies: 33
Views: 5693

Re: No self help

Ah! I was reading the Ruthless Truth blog to try to crack this, and I think that I see it. Ciaran says at one point (and this was the key for me), "Nothing can exist that is not contained within the present." Agreed! He also goes on to say, "There's no you. You are literally the imagination of ...
by dementeddigital
Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:46 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: No self help
Replies: 33
Views: 5693

Re: No self help

Hey dementeddigital,

Valarie here jumping in on this thread. :)
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Point directly to the referent for the I that is sitting at the computer. Tell me where it is.

Thanks!

Hi Valarie. Thanks for jumping in. I'm Dan.

It's not possible to point at a referent. It's unfindable. So is awareness ...
by dementeddigital
Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:50 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: No self help
Replies: 33
Views: 5693

Re: No self help

Hello Dan...
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This is the first part of the definition...Yet later It also mentions an observer. The problem with this, is there is NO observer only the observed....It boils down to who's perspective are we talking about.

Exactly! This is where it's breaking down for me. I am aware of ...
by dementeddigital
Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:21 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: No self help
Replies: 33
Views: 5693

Re: No self help

Is there a liver (Not the organ) living life? or is it just life??

I know that the answer to this from those who have experienced it is that it is just life happening. I'm struggling to see this. If there is an observer (awareness) who also has some control over the experience (choice to do or ...
by dementeddigital
Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:50 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: No self help
Replies: 33
Views: 5693

Re: No self help


In essence what we are dealing with here is a dysfunction of the thought process that in fact, creates what appears to be a separate being ( A thought.) that points toward ownership/identity that in reality doesn't exist...


Separate from what? I'm not sure I fully follow. I can't say for sure ...
by dementeddigital
Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:16 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: No self help
Replies: 33
Views: 5693

Re: No self help


Don't know what to expect? Good, just as long as we don't set the bar unreasonably high
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So does it require a "you" to do all these things or do they happen Automatically??...(No doer, just doing.)

Yeah, I like to set the bar low - and then crawl under it.

All of these actions start with ...

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