no gate & nobody home ;)
thanks!

thank you alex
noting is missing

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a cigarette ;)

and how i feel?
this thread was nice clarifying
one can never know which pointer will push him through the gateless gate

Hi, ok, here we go:

(1) There is no REAL "me", while looking at what is happening in direct experience. Sometimes it can only APPEAR as a thought "I" (that is mostly attached to experiences or to other thoughts like I think, I write, I do, I see - but all of the experiences actually happen by ...

alex, sorry, maybe now i dont understand your question, can you please tell it with other words or more in detail?

I dont think that my identity is a complex of body, mind and feelings... it is just a STORY happening spontaneously: the body is seen (or actually most of the time not even seen ...

Alex, I definitely knew that you will ask about the word "oneself":)))))

ofcourse I could avoid to use it but I just honestly DESCRIBED what we could MEAN when we use the word "I" or "self" and why we can easily belive in it

1. one thing with the habit from childhood...
2. second point about ...

So in detail:
One fact is that our parents did teach us that we are "someone". That I am "I", and a mother is a mother and a father is a father etc. (as a fresh father I can see it quite clearly:))) (My daughter doesnt seem to be recognizing herself, while just some months old - for example if she ...

what to say, alex:)
hunger is happening, insulting is happening, reactions are happening - there is no other way something can happen than that is just happening, what else to say...

and how it happens? It just appears SUDDENLY - either there is hunger /or there is no hunger, hunger can be big /or ...

sorry dear alex
i went to holiday with my family and in mountains there was unexpectedly so bad internet connection that unfortunately i was not able to answer every day

now i am back with some feedback for you:

realising the fact that "I" is also only a thought was interesting point for me (kind ...

Hi Alex
Yes looking is part of what is just happenig.
...looking, body, thoughts, feelings - everything just arise, change, disappear..
I am not able to tell exactly when does thinking about "I" arise, in the course of these activities - sometimes it just arises:)))

If the thoughts about "I" refer ...

hi alex
well, precisely said, we can say that thoughts just appear...(but still - before a particular thought appears - it is NOT here, it is NOT known - that is why i used expression that it is appearing from NOThing)

i dont control thoughts, i dont know what the next thought is, i cannot stop ...

Hi Alex
Of course it is assumptions, because I dont know how this proces of identification works...If i knew, I wouldnt come here...

But that what you are questioning - using words like "I speak", "I think" - this is only language - I would not try to avoid them, even when I see that there is no "I ...

Ok Alex
I dont know really what that "I" is. I never saw any. It seems like there is an identification going on - with the thoughts, with the feelings. And even if I look and dont see anything behind thoughts and feeling - still than again later the identification is happening. Like some habit ...

Yes i accept the rules, i will always anwer honestly, hopefully every day (as internet connection allows)

My expectations are to see more deeply into this "I" identification, to examine what does it mean. And thanks to this approach be able to show it to others, when needed.

Even if i see that ...

Hi Alex, thanks for your message, yes we can start here.

Hi all.
My name is Martin, from Czech Republic. I dont know why - but since childhood i was reading all the books about "How the thing really are" and I was meditating for some years. And than later i have read and liked Nisargadatta Maharaj and Ramana Mahararishi etc. - it felt like freedom but ...