Thank you, Neeeel, for being patient enough with me until I saw this. I think I will spend some time going through the site and reading other discussions before deciding what I should do next.

I am very much interested in continued discussion and support and may open a facebook account later, in ...

So what doubts remain for you? Give me another big spiel about your doubts. Why do you think that you havent seen this?

When I look at this, actually I think that I have indeed seen this. The doubts that came up were mainly because of expectations, I think. Although I did not have any specific ...

Ok so, can you answer the following questions. Write as much as you can for each.

I am not sure if I should be attempting this questions at this stage but since you ask, I will write what I have seen so far.

1) Is there a 'me', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

No ...

So, give me an update on where you are with all of this? Are you seeing it clearly? Any doubt remain? Is there an "I" outside of thought? Was there ever?

Yes, I see clearly that the "I" is imagined in thought and does not exist. No, I do not have any doubts on this. The "I" never did exist. I ...

So, if you see that the thoughts are not pointing to anything in reality, do you need to believe anything that these thoughts say about the imaginary self, which is just a made up story? Or anything these thoughts say about anyone elses imaginary self ( which are also just made up stories in your ...

Yes, you mentioned this before, that you were identifying with the witness. You need to look and see if its true? Is awareness a you? If it is you, then what is witnessing the witness? Is the feeling of being awareness anything more than a thought about "I" being the awareness?

Ok, I looked ...

Ok, who feels totally lost? Is this not all just the mind doing what it does best, trying to understand and make sense of what it perceives? Look at these thoughts and see that they are just thoughts, no one doing them.

It appears that you still believe that theres an "I" here to be liberated ...

How do you mean "What is left after that"?

Perhaps that is one expectation that I have, that once I truly see that the I does not exist, what remains after the I is no more will make everything about existence and being clear to me. ( and how and why the I appeared to come into existence in the ...

So, is there a self, in any way, shape or form?

None whatsoever! So what is left after that? I assume that this question too is concocted by the "I"? All that is, is the here and now.

Yes, I can see that there is no doer or thinker; neither seer, hearer or senser. All these are assumptions made and believed about for years and years.

When you say "no breakthroughs yet" what breakthroughs are you expecting? What are you expecting to happen that hasnt happened yet?

My idea of ...

Who is continuing to act as if the "I" exists in day to day life?

Are the doubts yours? Are you doing the doubting thoughts, the fears?

Point noted. Doubts are arising on their own and it is noticed. And I continue to look [even at nights when I am half awake]. No breakthroughs yet but I must ...

It is just as simple to give up "I" as a belief, if you see that its not true. Thats where the honesty comes in. Does it matter to you that your beliefs are true? It takes a simple moment of looking, and then thats it, done.


This is confusing. I "look" whenever and where ever it occurs to me ...

Yes, and that will keep happening, because, guess what, there is no "you" to stop it from happening. Its habit and conditioning, same as everything else. The difference is, you can now notice it happening and go "Ah, there it goes again, well, what do you know?" The sense of I doesnt die, or ...

Yes, I seem to have gotten myself confused with all this talk about the I sense and the spirit self. I admit that the I sense is also a fabrication made of the I thought and sensations. It is just that I have gotten so used to assuming that is "me" that I seem to keep falling back into doing exactly ...

First you need to be sure that you have seen this clearly, and that its not just been accepted without proof.
How do you know that you dont exist? What have you seen that shows you this? Did you spend time during the day looking at actions and how they happen?

Is there a self in any way, shape ...