hi, JR, sorry if these questions seem redundant. i am looking for a clarity i do not yet see in your replies (could be my vision).

with reference only to your present, immediate experience,

is there a see-er of seeing or just the experience of seeing?

is there a place to which all other ...

thank you

no. never have, never will.

just what's happening. what is there to describe? no here, no there, just this. how does it happen? i don't know.
i don't know what it means to describe my experience in terms of clarity. some components of experience are clearer than others, depending on how attention is operating at any given ...

What is your experience of clarity ?

clarity of what?

Explain the identification seen here.
there isn't any.

four years ago these sensations fell into abeyance for a short while, after observing them continuously for few months. they were absent, and so was anything that ever looked like 'me'. at the eyes, only seeing, at the ears, only hearing ...

(...) clearly the removal of some beliefs cannot be a thing.
yes, that is clear.

Suffering will morph when the identification with a story is detached. The suffering is almost certainly the result of habit or conditioning. This is what is undone when it is simply seen to occur.
i am not ...

Tell me the thought process that occurs when you consider being liberated.
first, it is what it is. thoughts of self remain pervasive. yes, they are empty. there are moments of thinking/feeling self trying to own it which is a little funny given the mental contortions that would seem to involve ...

it does not feel a certain way. no feeling is present that was not present before.

Tell me this Lorn, Is there a you, at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
i burst out laughing as i read this. no. i mean, everything is still there, but no.

when you said, "Try this, Stop DOING the looking and BE the looking." there was a big stupid grin and a feeling of relief. that is ...

they're nothing. thoughts that support or oppose other thoughts. thoughts don't know or experience anything. yes, they're just more thoughts. i can't think anything i don't already know. thought might embellish it, define it, sprinkle it with commentary, perspectivise it, but it is already what it ...

Watch your thought PROCESS as you read the next line...
Try this, Stop DOING the looking and BE the looking.
i can see you wading through thoughts, dissecting them looking FOR someTHING.

my response to your instruction was not a thought process, it was a grin.

it is not in thoughts that i look ...

i am trying to undermine the ones that i already have.
The idea is right. You are dropping false beliefs, but it's not something you can DO. what is it a matter of? When you LOOK in the right way at the right place, you will SEE what is false and it will be dropped.
i don't know what i'm doing ...

when you look down you only see one leg so in fear of falling you grab onto anything that might stop you from falling.

my head feels funny when i read that. i'm going to sit and look at it for a while.

First thing to realise is that this is not about knowledge. Nothing you can be told or read will help. (it can hinder in the form of beliefs) i understand that belief is an obstacle to investigation. i don't want to believe. i want to know. i stopped reading, more or less, when i started ...