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Esther

Thanks for your words. Yes, it feels exactly like that: mind trying to hook up with I again.
Although there's nothing to hook up with, they still suggest there is one and arouse feelings of fear or whatever old conditioning there is.
OK. thanks. I'll trust the process and follow the 'doubts ...

Hi Ilona,
After my initial 'seeing' that there is no I, and the sudden silence in my head I experienced, I find myself now in a storm of thoughts, sometimes fear coming up...yes, my 'self' again, believing in this I construction...Woah, that really depressed me this morning.
Feeling trapped in ...

OK!

Hi,
Just sinking in this new experience of no self. A bit hard to explain but you probably know what I mean. It's like
some inner noise fell away and suddenly it's silent and simple. But it also feels vulnerable in a sense that I have not much to say about it. Just experiencing this for now..which ...

Dear Ilona,

How does it feel to be liberated?

Last night I woke up several times feeling an overflowing happiness, felt like a lightbulb in bed!
Also a bit cautious, is this it? But that question evaporates as quickly as it comes up.
It's like feeling really great about something without a ...

Is there a self in any form or shape in reality? Was there ever?

No. Only as a thought. You cannot see this 'self'. It has no form or shape. It's nowhere!
Although I must say that I can still feel the habit of assuming this self. Like I could just as easily believe in it again.But at the same ...

There is no I to go through a gate.
How can a thought move through a gate?
There is no gate.

There's just all this happening. I see now that I wanted to get rid of my thoughts. But I can't get rid of my thoughts just as I can't get rid of the sound of the dog barking or this table. There's no need ...

The I feels like a crowd of thoughts trying to make sense of itself..

No. A thought cannot think. So they are merely just images or words coming up.
I notice that I want to understand what it is, probably to keep control. Which I don't have.
If I let the why go, thoughts just come up. Amazing ...

what happens is that it's clearly seen that you are not that self image, that doubts are not yours.

Yes. Here I get confused. I still think there is an I that produces doubts.
The character, Ok, that seems to be something else..like an oak is an oak and not a birch. But somehow I believe that ...

Thank you for answers.
You expect to know what you are. That is a tricky one, hehe. All identification is assumed. There is no real you. There is no you at all. How does this make you feel?

Reading your words makes me feel suddenly very happy. Like something is coming alive. Makes me feel free ...

Hi Ilona,
Just came up with another one: I expect to relax. To sleep deep at night (at night is when I notice my alertness, my tenseness most) It's not that I'm a very tense person, but deep down something is never home, so to speak. Even now my life couldn't be happier and better.

Ok, let's start from your expectations.
Just make a list of all what you expect Theo's liberation to be like, what you want it to be and what you think it's gonna feel like.


I think you meant Esther's liberation.. :)

What do I expect?
I expect to see through my thoughtstories all the time ...

Although I recognize my thoughts are just thoughts, I seem to get lost in them quite easily. It feels like there is 'something' keeping me from really seeing...something holding on to the illusion of an I. When I get lost in thought (believing I'm not good enough for example) I can see through that ...