Thank you, Stacy! Thank you for your patience and guidance.

I have these from a message you sent a little while back:

This is just a beginning.

We have a couple of support groups that are meeting via teleconference and I'll give you the information on that.

There are 3 meetings.

Vince Shubert ...

Hahaha. Ok will not post a book.

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
No.

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it ...

Thoughts are saying "Yay! I did it!....Ok, now what?"

LOL.

“You have made an upside-down world in which you have made your insanity seem real.”

Omg.

Can you now say 100% that there's no self?

Have you experienced a shift in perception even if it faded?

Yes.

It's like it says in A Course in Miracles: all my beliefs have been upside down.

Here's another one:

I am "doing" things. I am making decisions. I am a doer.

- Is this true? Maybe? Sometimes?
- Can I absolutely know that it's true? No.
- How do I react, what happens when I believe that thought? Heaviness, effort, struggle, tired, overwhelmed, knot in stomach, sluggish ...

Oh ok. Yeah the turnarounds have always felt confusing to me. I'll keep going and do it all myself.

Whoa, Stacy. This is so powerful. I wrote the turnarounds myself and Chatgpt helped me with the supporting points. I have edited them to make sure they accurately describe my experience. Here is one of the beliefs with turnarounds. It's astonishing how well this works and how deeply it is landing ...

I'll do the others myself!

This is perhaps cheating, but I asked ChatGPT how to do the turnarounds and it asked me if I wanted to do one together. I chose "I am not awake." The output from ChattyG is very good!

🌿 Original thought:

“I am not awake.”
(meaning: “I’m not enlightened / I’m still asleep / I don’t get it yet ...

Where are your Turn Arounds?

I will do them today!

Hi Stacy,

I did The Work on some of my beliefs and noticed a pattern early on. I didn't feel the need to finish the rest. All of them give the contracted, heavy feeling. They are all lies. Always, without the belief, the feeling is levity, expansiveness, peace.

Here are the ones I did:

Beliefs ...

Are you using the tools I've given you?

Well, you know what, I had totally forgotten about the exercises in the Dropbox that you shared. I had done a few already and I did Perceiving Receiving and Zooming in on Peace today. I'll keep doing more of those (and won't forget about them this time ...

Hi Stacy,

Been exploring this, and yes, something has shifted. The sense of "me" is still there most of the time, but it's becoming easier to recognize thoughts as the wheels of momentum turning and less as something "I" am "doing." Once recognized, they often then just get dropped and attention ...

Hi Stacy,

I went back and read through your conversation with Ilona again. The part where Ilona asks if a tree has a doer hit me in an interesting way. A tree has no doer. A tree trees. Animals animal. Humans human. It can be no other way.

Still, I do not know what I have seen or not seen.

I ...