Hi Gunnar,

I am curious to keep going and see what is thought to be missing pieces, thanks for the offer after receiving the group's decision.

Rube

What is the experience of being responsible for this 'falling back into such a world of parts'? Are you responsible for these veils/stereotypes/perceptions? Do they come from 'you'? If not, where do they come from?

Blessings,
Gunnar

The experience is of discontent and the thought that wishes to ...

Thanks for checking in Gunnar and kindness. Took a break. Look forward to your response

Relating to the examples, you write "what is actually happening is what thought says is so". What do you mean by this?

What I mean is that 'what is actually happening' cannot be touched by words, or thought ...

1. Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
Not sure why the second question is asked, for those who think that seeing no separate self is a realization that separates them from whom they once were? Seeing no separate self is just ...

1. Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

Not sure why the second question is asked, for those who think that seeing no separate self is a realization that separates them from whom they once were? Seeing no separate self is just ...

Can you say with 100% certainty that there is no separate, controlling self?

I can, easily

Is there something else which is not clear regarding the belief in a separate self?

At this time no, I'm certain

Something else you would like to look at?

I would like to proceed to the final ...

Is there anything special about consciousness / awareness / the witness? Is it as impersonal and natural as walking, eating, pooping?

A little caught up in semantics of ‘special’ and ‘natural’. Awareness is here. How it’s so is just granted, which sounds like walking, eating, pooping - things we ...

Hi Gunnar,

I'm back from a longer break than I expected. May we continue where we left off? Thanks for your understanding.

(1) First, close the eyes and feel the sensations labelled ‘body’.

(2) Then open the eyes and look into the mirror while still paying attention to the sensations. Is there ...

Gunnar, could use 2 days to answer these questions. Hope that’s understandable. Thank you

Rube

Let's investigate the sense of self as it relates to the body now:

Sit with eyes closed for about 15 minutes.

Paying attention only to the pure sensations, without relying on thoughts or mental images:

Hi Gunnar,

Can it be known how tall the body is?

No unit of measurement exists

Does ...

Hi Gunnar,

Palm Flipping Exercise

1. Hold a hand in front of you; palm turned down.

2. Now turn the palm up. And down...and up and so on.

Watch like a hawk.

Don't go to thoughts – examine your direct experience.

Do this as many times as you like, and each time inquire:

How is the movement ...

How does it feel to see this so clearly? There is no 'you', never has been, never will be. End of story.

Blessings,
Gunnar

Thoughts still occur that run contrary to the idea of no self, they are self-concerned. There is no 'you' and there is something here. To say something about it requires ...

What if you took away the students, would it still be a university? What if all that's left is the buildings - still a university then? Is the university in the people, buildings, or books themselves?

Likewise, 'I' is pointing to things in direct experience, mainly sensations and thoughts. That ...

Labels have a profound effect, they deaden the experience at times, 'that sound is traffic', no longer is there any mystery or curiosity because the label makes it commonplace, or they invite emotional responses if there's a sensation labeled pain, or a scary image that attaches to that pain ...

2. What is here without labels?

An unsayable reality

3. Do labels affect the experience or just describe it? (Perhaps this highlights what you were experiencing when you wrote: "It feels like an unnatural interruption and the words I use to describe the different ways of experiencing my ...