yes thank you.

I understand!

I think what I will do is I will have a break from this.

I try to look inwards and stay with the questions you have asked me throughout our thread.

Thanks so much for all your help!

All the best and take care

I wasn't complaining. It was a genuine question out of curiosity.

Even if it rubbed me the wrong way, I know thats part of the process and so I don't have hard feelings ..

But considering I have broken the rules . I apologise and I am sorry . I should have thought before I spoke.
The action was ...

• What comes up now, when it is suggested that the illusion of self has been seen-through? different things at different times. sometimes annoyance / anger (sensations in the jaw) and dismissal in this moment. but then it passes

• Deep down you know there's nothing behind the self 'mask', and ...

Was there ever a self there?
no!

The question is not is there still a "FAKE self". A "fake self" could hang around forever and it would be no problem at all.
• What exactly would be the difference between a "fake self" and a "real self"?
fake self is a fiction, an imagination. Relf self - if ...

Hi matt,


Up and down. Nature was good today and I was walking very slowly.. i can try and answer the questions again tomorrow. I don't think there has been a shift. Still a self here . Probably its ownship of thoughts and body sensations = emotions. Ownership of emotions is the issue i think

Hi mate,
not sure i am feel I am through the gate. But I am very willing and happy to answer these questions honestly from how I am feeling today.

• 1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?
there was an illusory one and still ...

also noticing that when there is a good mood here there is a desire to retain it. and when a bad mood a lot of judgement and efforts to change it.

such good questions!! i think it is both. Sometimes violence sometimes a healthy grief .

that is no persistence of the grief. Only at low moments or fleeting moments then these thoughts are attracted.

Monday i was in a good mood, Tuesday I there was a lot of adhd type behaviourr / anger . Today ...

So now, just look at or sense that absence. Everything can remain as it is; "suffering", "conditioning", "thoughts", "narratives", "illusion", etc.; that's not our concern. Our only concern is dwelling on this absence, this openness or emptiness where we thought the 'I' was. This is your non-verbal ...

• Is there a thinker found anywhere in addition to the thoughts?
no, there is a thought or not

Sounds like you'd like to be free of suffering....
• Next time there is suffering, please check and see if there is a sufferer, an entity that is suffering.
you mean there is no 'poor me'? who is the ...

Do thoughts have any value or clout at all?

I woke up this morning and the mind was saying "if there is no on here, and I'm not in control , then what is there for me to do. It was almost giving up. But it was resistant to be redundant and it was worried about having no job

I know that is all ...

so its about realising that this is already the case.

i guess the issue is, the mind movies, and also the desire for freedom from suffering.

almost like the desire to be free of suffering is keeping me from being free of suffering.

There was never and is not a separate self. that is pretty ...

When you stop looking, your senses can still be tricked! The illusion of a separate self continues, however you now know what it is....

Yeh I understand what is it trying to say. Thouughts sensations etc creating illusion of separate self. Its an illusion but I don't SEE in te looking part to ...

Thabk you yes I do have Facebook and I enjoyed the picture..

This metaphor makes sense! Excuse the pun!

I will stay alert.

Last night I was on the balcony and I had a thought "I want to be self realised". Then another thought "who wants to be self realised?" Then I freaked out slightly. The next ...

That was a beautiful exercise. Thank you.

I have done this before but had more contractions in the past.
I just did it now. Here is my report:-
The first 10 mins seemed ridiculous to use the I when things were clearly happening without a doer. It was seen to be more ridiculous and obvious how the ...