Thanks for everything.

love kathlleen

who is there to have this thing called, "free will?" Also, what arose when you did the Palm Flipping exercise?

I can't find it. I have a lot of thoughts about it but in experience I cannot find it. It is what it is, it just happens.

And then what happened? Please say how this made you look and ...

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
No. When I look I can not find a separate self. The mind wants to show me when I was a separate self. For example when I gave birth to my son, but then I see that my son was birthed. This ...

Yes, that would be interesting.

thanks

kathleen

So, you can't find any separate thing called "self" anywhere?

I can not find any separate thing called self anywhere.

kathleen

How is the movement controlled ?
automaatic
Does a thought control it?
no
Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?
no
How is the decision made to turn the hand over? Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately ...

Now how does it FEEL to see this?

It feels great. Amazing that I never looked at this before. There is no separation.

Please LOOK for any place where your butt ends & the chair begins.

Separation between between butt and chair is not Seen.


Is there any clear dividing line between them? Or only the Sensation with no clear division?
There is no dividing line. No clear division where butt is Sensed and chair ...

Can we start this over. I am too confused.
Just a fresh set of questions..not referring to any previous post.

thanks
kathleen

Good morning ,

Not sure what happened but my answers were written under your statements/questions.

I had to cut and paste so I could follow your questions.

Now I can't seem to cut and paste from my previous post because I am responding to your last. I don't know... getting too confusing for me ...

When looking at ( self ), there's color; a thought saying ‘self’; and maybe a thought saying, "I'm looking at an myself."
What is known for sure? Color is known and thoughts are known.
What about the content of thoughts, what they describe?
The contents of thoughts are just thought.

Actual ...

How does it FEEL to SEE this?

It feels good to not have to control things.

I answered the other questions with Quotes so I am not sure what more you are asking of this session.

Technology is not my strong point. I am going to San Antonio on Thursday through the following Monday ( December 1-5 ...

It felt good.

"Thinking is a disease of the mind."

I love this quote.

Of course with that being said I have been doing so much Thinking about all of this.. lol

Thanks
kathleen

How is the movement controlled?

automatic
Does a thought control it?
No
Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?

no
How is the decision made to turn the hand over? Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately ...

When looking at an apple, there's color; a thought saying ‘apple’; and maybe a thought saying, "I'm looking at an apple."

What is known for sure? Color is known and thoughts are known.

What about the content of thoughts, what they describe?

Actual experience does not refer to thoughts ABOUT ...