Thanks for your guidance, I will review our messages from the beginning and see what comes up.

Is there attention in direct experience?

Yes it seems like attention is the change in focus that appears in direct experience.

What is attention ? Look and describe it for me.
Attention is the change in what I am aware of. As I type this attention is on the words being written on the screen ...

LOOK at your daily activities and SEE if there is an entity, a you doing them.

Surprisingly I spontaneously started doing that a little bit after your amazing hand experiment. I will continue to see if there is an entity doing physical actions.

I posted a reply a few days ago but it didn't seem to post. I will post again:


What is meant by "a sense of attention"? Is it a sensation : if it so where is it located? Does a sensation control the movement?
Is it only a thought? LOOK
the sense of attention is just what attention is doing ...

How is the movement controlled?
I have no idea. There's reading of the instructions and then there's a sense of agreeing to do it and then it happens.


Does a thought control it?
After reading this question I did it again. It doesn't seem that thought controls it but there does seem to be a ...

Update: I haven't done the exercise yet. I will start doing it today and will report back.

Again as I type this I can ask myself who is the "I" that is expecting the pattern to stop?
Good observation. Look and give the answer to your question.
And by the way, is there you, a separate self who's going to look?
There is no "I" or separate self that is going to look, if there is looking ...

There is awareness of everything that arises. Is "Just be knowingly" an action?
No. It is just being and aware of being aware.
If it's not an action or movement then is it possible to not be aware of being aware?

Do you see that “If there is no "I" there must be something fueling this inquiry ...

There is just awareness of experiences and some of those include thoughts that imply an "I".
Wonderful, how do you feel to see this?

It invites more curiosity to stay with direct experience. Nothing is outside of direct experience including thoughts but somehow it seems so.


There are ...

Yes, being aware is not an experience.
Can it be known directly? It can't be known as an experience by the mind but it seems evident from all experience that awareness exists.

When I look to see if I am aware, attention moves to one of the senses and thoughts say "the fact that the sensation is ...

I have not. When I see the shape/color/texture that thought labels laptop in the visual field the label "laptop" appears.

Yes, it is like a program : when a color/shape is seen, a corresponding label appears. It does not mean that a thought (label) is linked to the object. I want you to see that ...

In addition to this guiding I have been doing self inquiry and recently increased it to 2 hours at a time. I have experienced a spinning sensations in my head a few times. They last less than a minute and the strongest one was associated with the visual field spinning as well. Is this common?

The thoughts are completely blind to all sensory experience and have no connection to them at all?
Yes, in direct experience you cannot find a link between a thought, a label and the sensory experience. Have you seen this?
I have not. When I see the shape/color/texture that thought labels laptop ...

Ok so what I'm understanding is that thoughts have no connect to what is appearing in the senses except that they also occur here and now.
The thoughts are completely blind to all sensory experience and have no connection to them at all?
If this is the case how are they consistent in that when a the ...

The previous post was cut short for some reason, so I will write the remainder again

What if the label “discomfort” is taken away from the sensation. Look at the sensation without adding a label on it and tell me what is found.

I have also been looking for the peace that the "discomfort" is ...