But I suspect that’s not what you are getting at

This comment means that my understanding of the LU approach is that it's based on 'deep seeing' rather than needing to take this or that phenomenological position...

V,

They are concepts. Do you 'get' that?

I do understand that. You purposely (and sensibly) decided not to read the previous exchanges one of which included a note from me that I'd generally not bother with quote marks around things to indicate that communicate that I 'get' that they are ...

Vince,

what makes an intention thought different to a decision thought?

Well they're both thoughts. They differ only in what they express: one an intent and the other a decision. So they are both the same and different in the way that they would be if written down. The same syntactically (they ...

What are the conditions that produced that flavor of thought

Necessity largely. Or an internal question.

What do you think that is?

Difficult to say. You might be clarifying or correcting what you read as my understanding but, within a reasonable measure, we appear to be saying the same ...

Decision, intention, free will, choice, control, and responsibility.

Decision .
A choice. Sometimes automatic and instant, sometimes deliberated over days or weeks. The point when the sense of a self is most apparent as it can involve judgement, reason, emotion etc but some 'one' has to put all ...

Re-reading the above... I realise that it might come across as me being frustrated with the process or even you. That is not the case. If there's any frustration it's mine with me. Whatever that is 😂

So. After much looking I can find no boundary. There is the perception of the sound being outside and that of inside. There is no boundary. That is my experience. Period.


What do I think is happening? I believe, the perception of externality (distance, direction) is caused by brain interpretation ...

- can you find something which is doing the hearing? sort of ... it's my head and not....! I can hear distant voices. They appear to be 'happening' between my ears. THe sound of the keys on my keyboard as I type... that sound is in front of me and down a bit. So... something doing the hearing?? not ...

Would you say that that you, that is either doing or receiving that voice, is not experienced, but assumed?

I would have to say it's assumed... Assumed on the basis that I cannot conceive of a decision without a decision-maker andy more than I can conceive of a watch without a watchmaker.

Of ...

Okay, so when a decision is made, what is the experience like, in order that makes you interpreted it as you thinking of it as a person? Is there a specific feeling present, a certain warmth that feels personal in the body, a feeling of being separate from what's around the body, is there a 'strong ...

This "person" is to be found most clearly in decision points: "No, I won't do that, I'll do this"...

So can it be found? Well... this is when it's experienced at its max....

J

Hi Floris,

So... an interim "report".

After a few days of reflection ... spontaneously and not actually at a point where I was reflecting on my experience - I could see my hands in front of me and my feet beyond them (I was sitting on a couch)... Except... it wasn't the usual experience. How can I ...

Maybe what didn't communicate well is that I don't really intent you to debate or agree with what I'm saying, but often rather to use what I'm saying as a pointer to look at experience in a new (less conceptual resulted) way, so certain concepts/ideas/assumptions will be undone. The pointing isn't ...

There are quite a lot of questions there ... some possibly that are rhetorical i.e. that you were not particularly expecting an answer. Which is fine.

I guess you think this is so but without some change on my behalf, I'm not sure how to bridge the apparent gap.

I'll try and explain. There's ...

so, [YOU stood before a mirror] and noticed [YOUR surroundings]. Is it correct that you thought these two parts that I ‘bracketed’ were true because you think you’re a body and associate yourself with the bodyappearance?

Well... you did ask for my experience 😄
I'm not going to going to use ...