Thanks a lot Vince,

for all of the time and attention you and the other guides spent with me here.I have already opted for becoming a guide so we'll be chatting again sooner or later.

Hello Vince,

Can you point to the moment when there has been a shift from an intellectual understanding of there being no separate self to an experiential recognition of it?

Not really. I can't say I have experienced a big moment with a big shift. It was rather that everytime I've read a story ...

Hey Vince,

since waiting for our friend here is obviously taking some time why don't you also ask him about the following statement of his:

There are actions taken that aren't all that useful too!

Does he imply by this that there is some universal standard for what is "useful" and that standard ...

Yesterday's story didn't do?

Is "accepted and applied" something that is 'done'?

No. As doing requires doer and doer can't be found in experience. So "accepted and applied" is a story about experience happening.

There are actions taken that aren't all that useful too!

Is there a decision to take them?

No, cause there ...

Can he provide a couple of other examples from his daily life on what he believes he is responsible for?"


No "he" can't because "he" isn't. Since "he" isn't, his "daily life" isn't too, his "beliefs" aren't too and his "responsibility" (including the responsibility to answer questions) isn't too ...

BRB

seems to me that you are pretty clear and have seen through many illusions. Is this correct?

Absolutely.

and can you say that you grok it?

Absolutely.

Can you think of any area that we need to investigate further?

Not really.

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all ...

Responsibility is just a thought.

OK, Vince let's keep things simple and get rid of the "old" Vortex. Cause end effect are just stories that cannot be verified in experience. They require this and that to be true but there is just this and there are stories about that. So simple and profound, no? 🙂

Is it? You experience something that you label "cause" and after that, you experience something that you label "effect".

Yes it is although I guess you might prefer to call it influence. Of course I do not mean that the influencing of every influenced is easy to experience and I don't mean that ...

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

No other than a story with no base in reality.

2) Share in your own words what the illusion of separate self is and how it shows up in experience. Also, through your inquiry, what is ...

BRB

Greetings Vince

responsibility'?

Quite a useful story and especially in working environment but however it requires a self to carry duty so isn't any real.

Morality?

Useful story again and especially in social environment but requires logical distinctions between true/false, right/wrong ...

Back in the Vortex

Can you list some that you can say that since recognizing them has changed experiencing for you?

Here we go

Arguing - when talking to friends before I would like most of people make an argument that I would consider to be true and try to defend it in any way possible even ...