Hi Vivien,
At the end, please write me how did you go observing each thought as it arose, and observing the gap between thoughts when sitting silently?
While sitting and observing thoughts keep coming, including thoughts about observing thoughts. There can be an infinite regression of thoughts ...
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- Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:53 pm
- Forum: THE GATE
- Topic: Pay Attention
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- Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:47 am
- Forum: THE GATE
- Topic: Pay Attention
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Re: Pay Attention
Hi Vivien,
I have been continuing to look, using the pointers you have given me, and I have been having some reactions to looking, which I am also looking at.
So just sit down, and notice how the seeming self appears.
Where does it seems to be?
Where I notice the seeming self is in the pressure ...
I have been continuing to look, using the pointers you have given me, and I have been having some reactions to looking, which I am also looking at.
So just sit down, and notice how the seeming self appears.
Where does it seems to be?
Where I notice the seeming self is in the pressure ...
- Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:25 am
- Forum: THE GATE
- Topic: Pay Attention
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Re: Pay Attention
Hi Vivien,
Thank you for this it is most helpful. I am continuing to look into whenever, and however this sense of me/I comes up, or whenever I remember (whoever or whatever that is).
Keith
Thank you for this it is most helpful. I am continuing to look into whenever, and however this sense of me/I comes up, or whenever I remember (whoever or whatever that is).
Keith
- Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:39 am
- Forum: THE GATE
- Topic: Pay Attention
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Re: Pay Attention
Hi Vivien,
But have you checked in experience? Again and again and again? Hundreds of times?
I haven’t counted. Obviously not enough yet. I continue to check.
Isn’t this contradicting your above statement that you haven’t seen this?
When I wrote “not as far as I can tell” I meant to convey that ...
But have you checked in experience? Again and again and again? Hundreds of times?
I haven’t counted. Obviously not enough yet. I continue to check.
Isn’t this contradicting your above statement that you haven’t seen this?
When I wrote “not as far as I can tell” I meant to convey that ...
- Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:07 pm
- Forum: THE GATE
- Topic: Pay Attention
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Re: Pay Attention
Hi Vivien,
Yes. It’s the same with thoughts. Thoughts comment on things and ADD a lots of stories which actually don’t happen. Can you see this?
Yes, I can see this, and when they tell a story about something that does happen they claim they did it. For example if I think “Let’s have a cup of ...
Yes. It’s the same with thoughts. Thoughts comment on things and ADD a lots of stories which actually don’t happen. Can you see this?
Yes, I can see this, and when they tell a story about something that does happen they claim they did it. For example if I think “Let’s have a cup of ...
- Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:42 pm
- Forum: THE GATE
- Topic: Pay Attention
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Re: Pay Attention
Hi Vivien,
Can you see that “I am hearing a sound” is just a thought narration on hearing?
Also, “I am noticing a thought” is just a thought narration (like subtitle) on knowing the presence of a thought?
Yes, I can see that these are comments on experience that sort of turn it into a thing, or ...
Can you see that “I am hearing a sound” is just a thought narration on hearing?
Also, “I am noticing a thought” is just a thought narration (like subtitle) on knowing the presence of a thought?
Yes, I can see that these are comments on experience that sort of turn it into a thing, or ...
- Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:35 pm
- Forum: THE GATE
- Topic: Pay Attention
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Re: Pay Attention
Hi Vivien,
Please describe this ‘subtle sense or thought that I am there looking at them’ as precisely as you can. But be careful not add anything extra there is not there in reality :)
Just checking in. What I can find so far is a background running commentary of thoughts with content like “I am ...
Please describe this ‘subtle sense or thought that I am there looking at them’ as precisely as you can. But be careful not add anything extra there is not there in reality :)
Just checking in. What I can find so far is a background running commentary of thoughts with content like “I am ...
- Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:17 am
- Forum: THE GATE
- Topic: Pay Attention
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Re: Pay Attention
Hi Vivien,
So please only write what is 100% true in your experience, all right?/quote]
All right. I'll do my best. I can't guarantee 100%.
Who / what is thinking that thought?/quote]
I don't know. The thought arises and the quality of sensations changes without the actual sensations being ...
So please only write what is 100% true in your experience, all right?/quote]
All right. I'll do my best. I can't guarantee 100%.
Who / what is thinking that thought?/quote]
I don't know. The thought arises and the quality of sensations changes without the actual sensations being ...
- Mon Feb 01, 2021 4:14 pm
- Forum: THE GATE
- Topic: Pay Attention
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Re: Pay Attention
Hi Vivien,
No, there is only an I when there is a thought of an I. Including the thought ‘I am looking’.
Can you see this experientially, or this is rather an intellectual understanding?
It’s mostly intellectual, an idea rather than directly seeing, but not completely. “I” continue to look, and ...
No, there is only an I when there is a thought of an I. Including the thought ‘I am looking’.
Can you see this experientially, or this is rather an intellectual understanding?
It’s mostly intellectual, an idea rather than directly seeing, but not completely. “I” continue to look, and ...
- Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:21 am
- Forum: THE GATE
- Topic: Pay Attention
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Re: Pay Attention
Hi Vivien,
Are you sure that there is an I, without having a thought which contains the word ‘I’?
No, there is only an I when there is a thought of an I. Including the thought ‘I am looking’.
Who/what is there to accept that there is no real I?
Ha! got me there. The idea of an I trying to ...
Are you sure that there is an I, without having a thought which contains the word ‘I’?
No, there is only an I when there is a thought of an I. Including the thought ‘I am looking’.
Who/what is there to accept that there is no real I?
Ha! got me there. The idea of an I trying to ...
- Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:48 am
- Forum: THE GATE
- Topic: Pay Attention
- Replies: 176
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Re: Pay Attention
Hi Vivien,
Sorry for the delay in replying. I seem to need longer than a day to inquire with these questions properly.
Yes! This me-ness, or sense of self/I is nothing else than an ordinary sensation, and only a thought labels is, more precisely, mislabels it as a ‘me’. Can you really see this ...
Sorry for the delay in replying. I seem to need longer than a day to inquire with these questions properly.
Yes! This me-ness, or sense of self/I is nothing else than an ordinary sensation, and only a thought labels is, more precisely, mislabels it as a ‘me’. Can you really see this ...
- Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:50 am
- Forum: THE GATE
- Topic: Pay Attention
- Replies: 176
- Views: 36955
Re: Pay Attention
Hi Vivien,
Continue observe this sensation and notice what it is you can discover of this sensation only as feeling/sensation only. What do you find? Do you really find Keith there?
I notice a sensation which changes, it can be tight, it can loosen and be more open, it can feel painful, it can ...
Continue observe this sensation and notice what it is you can discover of this sensation only as feeling/sensation only. What do you find? Do you really find Keith there?
I notice a sensation which changes, it can be tight, it can loosen and be more open, it can feel painful, it can ...
- Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:01 am
- Forum: THE GATE
- Topic: Pay Attention
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Re: Pay Attention
Hi Vivien,
I thought I would check in. The sensation that I keep coming back to when I look for this “I” is a pressure or knot like thing between my eyes and just above them, and back a bit, or sometimes sort of bulging from my forehead. The experience is of tension, and can be painful like a ...
I thought I would check in. The sensation that I keep coming back to when I look for this “I” is a pressure or knot like thing between my eyes and just above them, and back a bit, or sometimes sort of bulging from my forehead. The experience is of tension, and can be painful like a ...
- Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:33 pm
- Forum: THE GATE
- Topic: Pay Attention
- Replies: 176
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Re: Pay Attention
Hi Vivien,
When I pick up a glass it feels differently to me than when I see someone else do it.
What does the word I in the above sentence point to? And what does the word ‘someone else’ point to? To this body and that body over there?
I in that sentence points to the experience of picking up a ...
When I pick up a glass it feels differently to me than when I see someone else do it.
What does the word I in the above sentence point to? And what does the word ‘someone else’ point to? To this body and that body over there?
I in that sentence points to the experience of picking up a ...
- Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:18 pm
- Forum: THE GATE
- Topic: Pay Attention
- Replies: 176
- Views: 36955
Re: Pay Attention
Hi Vivien,
What if the subject-object split is just superimposed on the inseparably of experience? What I mean by that? That maybe there isn’t an object (experience) + a subject (an experiencer behind the head somewhere)… Rather there is just experience itself.
The closest I come to seeing this ...
What if the subject-object split is just superimposed on the inseparably of experience? What I mean by that? That maybe there isn’t an object (experience) + a subject (an experiencer behind the head somewhere)… Rather there is just experience itself.
The closest I come to seeing this ...

