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by Z23
Thu May 21, 2020 11:20 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Who is getting lost in the sauce?
Replies: 37
Views: 3655

Re: Who is getting lost in the sauce?

Hey Kento!

Will do, and thank you for your time and guidance!

Buoyantly,
Christian
by Z23
Thu May 14, 2020 6:31 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Who is getting lost in the sauce?
Replies: 37
Views: 3655

Re: Who is getting lost in the sauce?

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

No, and there never has been. The subject "self" doesn't exist in thought or outside of it.


2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works ...
by Z23
Mon May 11, 2020 6:45 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Who is getting lost in the sauce?
Replies: 37
Views: 3655

Re: Who is getting lost in the sauce?

Yes I would very much like to try and do that.

Thanks,
Christian
by Z23
Mon May 11, 2020 12:09 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Who is getting lost in the sauce?
Replies: 37
Views: 3655

Re: Who is getting lost in the sauce?

Yes. I would say I have seen through the illusion of a separate entity called self. There is nothing to point to.

Having seen this are there useful next steps to take? Is it possible to lose this perspective? Is there value in continual inquiry into the mechanics of thinking, how the illusion is ...
by Z23
Sun May 10, 2020 6:30 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Who is getting lost in the sauce?
Replies: 37
Views: 3655

Re: Who is getting lost in the sauce?


Hi Christian. :)



There’s a new feeling being on the precipice of an emerging perspective. There is a new visceral understanding seeing there is no watcher, no delay, thinking and observation being one and the same.



Great to hear that! :) Please be familiar with it.



I don’t perceive the ...
by Z23
Thu May 07, 2020 5:08 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Who is getting lost in the sauce?
Replies: 37
Views: 3655

Re: Who is getting lost in the sauce?

Are you satisfied with an intellectual understanding of this?
Or have you got a visceral understanding?

There’s a new feeling being on the precipice of an emerging perspective. There is a new visceral understanding seeing there is no watcher, no delay, thinking and observation being one and the ...
by Z23
Wed May 06, 2020 5:46 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Who is getting lost in the sauce?
Replies: 37
Views: 3655

Re: Who is getting lost in the sauce?


Hi Christian. :)


Yes, let's go on a bit further from speculation to actual observation.
What comes up when you 'think' that self equals thought.


Do you feel a sort of certainty in what you are thinking about?
Or do doubts appear?


I feel a type of certainty when thinking self = thoughts
Self ...
by Z23
Tue May 05, 2020 2:32 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Who is getting lost in the sauce?
Replies: 37
Views: 3655

Re: Who is getting lost in the sauce?

Are thoughts and self different?

This question is a really poignant headspinner. I gave this a shot yesterday and stared at an empty page for a quite a while :)

It appears thoughts and self are not things, rather they are activities or processes. It appears that there are no thoughts only ...
by Z23
Sun May 03, 2020 8:03 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Who is getting lost in the sauce?
Replies: 37
Views: 3655

Re: Who is getting lost in the sauce?

Hey Kento,

Yes, that looks like a natural response as a human being. Is there any expectation about it
ceasing to happen? What is the problem about it?

There was an expectation about cessation before you asked the question :) not so much any more.

The problem about it was unclear thinking about ...
by Z23
Fri May 01, 2020 4:58 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Who is getting lost in the sauce?
Replies: 37
Views: 3655

Re: Who is getting lost in the sauce?

Hey Kento,




Yes, I hear you, Christian. Could you describe how you "still act and feel like it's real"?
Please give examples from your daily life.
b]Allergies and rumination[/b]

I will have a self-referential thought. This thought will be accompanied by a physical or emotional reaction to ...
by Z23
Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:24 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Who is getting lost in the sauce?
Replies: 37
Views: 3655

Re: Who is getting lost in the sauce?

Hey Kento,

This has been the most difficult message to articulate so far. It's hard to make one coherent statement about this so I've put them in jot form

"This couldn't be it"

- I feel disappointed at the prospect that I could see again and again that there isn't a self to be found, yet still ...
by Z23
Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:36 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Who is getting lost in the sauce?
Replies: 37
Views: 3655

Re: Who is getting lost in the sauce?


Thanks, Christian. :)


Yes, I hear you; knowing something and articulating it are something
a bit different, although matching words to what is realized is a
good way to make what is seen even more clearer. So, why don't we try it?


How do you see the separate "self" now?
Is there any ...
by Z23
Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:21 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Who is getting lost in the sauce?
Replies: 37
Views: 3655

Re: Who is getting lost in the sauce?


Hi Christian. :)
What comes up with seeing that?
Any particular feelings or thoughts?


There are thoughts articulating confusion that dissolves when dissected.it’s unwinding quicker than I can write it down.

looking for a change caused confusion.

It seemed difficult to conceive of a decision ...
by Z23
Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:59 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Who is getting lost in the sauce?
Replies: 37
Views: 3655

Re: Who is getting lost in the sauce?


Hello Christian. :)

Who (what) realized that "There was just no unified self moving it"?


It’s the same thing as the leg moving. There is a thought, and a bit of a rush, and more thoughts. But the realization is just there in the mind. There’s no origin or self that it comes from. It’s possible ...
by Z23
Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:57 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Who is getting lost in the sauce?
Replies: 37
Views: 3655

Re: Who is getting lost in the sauce?


Hi Christian. :)


Nice observation! Was there any kind of "self" that was instructing
the leg to move?

How does it feel to see that "it just moved"?


No self was moving the leg...there were thoughts about a self moving the leg but that was after the leg moved. Sometimes the thoughts preceded ...

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