No the seeing just happens
Great, yes seeing takes place without any doing. Is there a seer to be found in direct experience? Does a sensation, sound, thought content, or color do the seeing or contain a seer?



The mind/body story of a me

Can you expand on what you mean by a mind body story ...

Yes it is seen clearly , usually not in the moment tho.

Are 'you' doing anything to make this seeing happen?

Matt is a name given to to this body at birth. A name this mindbody responds to and when caught in thought identifies itself with me/i/Santa. It is the label of the fictional story that ...

All good take your time

No more shifts have been experienced. If anything a diminishing of clarity of "seeing" tho it still feels certainly like santa has been unmasked and thoughts are seen with less conviction and connection. Tho this seeing seems to be a delicate movement from previous identification rather than any ...

Hi Matty, Been having issues logging into LU this week. How are you doing? Has there been any other shifts or changes in thoughts arising and the" seeing"arising, of the empty content of them? Seeing is available at all times, but being caught in thoughts is normal and isn't anyone being caught in ...

Hi Marty, I missed the notification in my email but just seeing this.

Good to hear. Yes a major shift is an expectation and there have been many aha momenta throughout and those are clear enough.

The seeing of the 'me' thought pattern is the key step in loosening the hold of certain types of ...

Thanks Matty, Take your time and will be waiting whenever you're ready.

These discoveries lead me to a place of peace , a place quite different from when I believed my thoughts and that I am a body mind .

You are on the right track and those shifts that were experienced are key to taking away the beliefs that you were the thoughts or the body. And there is seeing that ...

Great, the desire is just a habit for a mind that's spent a long time looking. But the answer should be the seeing in the moment that there is no self in thoughts, but there is seeing+hearing+tasting+touching and all that is arising without the need for a controller/doer/self

Our language is also ...

Great, so then is there any self to be found in any of thinking, seeing, hearing and touching? Look closely before concluding and search each of them for a self.

Now you might be seeing that thoughts don't want to stop with doubts. The below explains why. Do you feel you have some expectations of ...

Great, so then is there any self to be found in any of thinking, seeing, hearing and touching? Look closely before concluding and search each of them for a self.

Now you might be seeing that thoughts don't want to stop with doubts. The below explains why. Do you feel you have some expectations of ...

Tho of course even when looking at life from this perspective its still there questioning , " well without thought that sees this concept of it being more peaceful without thought"

Yes the questioning comes up and it needs to be seen that the reason thought will keep coming up is that it cannot ...

Thanks , this isnt as easy as previous investigations , it seems the info is locked away , I feel a lot of resistance in accessing it.

The resistance is good. Keep looking.


Like this false identity is wrapped up tightly. The initial feelings are that when investigating the suffering vanishes ...

" hold on , you are suffering practice non dual thought processes "

In this sentence, what is the "you" that is referred to that will now practice the thought process. Don't answer it from your non dual understanding but stay still and look deeply at what it refers to and ask , Is this picture ...

So this understanding and enquiry has continued and whenever I find myself caught up in false self suffering/believing I am my thoughts, the tools to dismantle that state i find are now at hand and more readily available.

Is there a layer of resistance that comments that it doesn't like that ...