Thanks again, Jon,

Will check here and in my messages folder.

Love

Emanon

Hi Jon,

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?


No, there isn't. There may be thoughts/feelings suggesting it, but as we have seen these are only appearances happening to no one.
No, there was never. So as you pointed out ...

Hi Jon,


Having said that, I have to add that even speaking in terms such as 'the experience of no self' is misleading and my account was very personal. Its simply how everything appeared, but not 'to me'.


I guess I understood what you were expressing. This whole affair of using words is tricky ...

Hello Jon

Enjoy India :-)

Thanks, I do. Home since more than 25 years :-)


... as the feelings, anger or whatever, are experienced see if its possible to find out what such emotion actually is? Is there someone 'having' emotion or is emotion like another kind of sensation, an energy, that ...

Hi Jon,

True. And sometimes it can be as effortless as simply noticing this? .

The real thing is effortless in my experience. I tried effort a lot in the beginning. Apparently part of the conditioning: Results are the fruit of effort. Doesn't work like this. It seems more like bubbles rising and ...

Hi Jon,

I'll start with your last question

Does this help at all?

Yes, it absolutely does. Your questions and comments helped me to take a fresh look and writing the answers, trying to get as close as possibbe to the actual experience, rephrasing ... helped to see more clearly. So, thanks again ...

Hi Jon,

hope you had a good weekend.

Yoga, by any chance?

No, just holidays.

Thank you for your answers which are great to read. Seems you have been doing some important work! 'Funny confusing and scary' can all happen once beliefs are seen for what they are and begin to crumble. When did ...

Hi Jon,

I'm on my way to Rishikesh. Writing on my mobile. Will stay a bit more than two weeks. Will answer your questions as soon as there is a quiet moment - and internet connection.

I definitely would like to continue. Two topics that immediately arise are body and emotions.

Thanks for the ...

Hi Jon,


Doing the investigation with hearing once again, or seeing, if you prefer, you'll probably notice thoughts appearing? They may appear for a while and then fade? They could be ABOUT almost anything.

Yes, with a sense perception, like hearing a sound, almost instantly thoughts appear ...

Hi Jon,


And are 'you' making any of this experience happen?


No, experiences just happen.

You may like to try each of the remaining senses of smell, taste and touch? Try placing a hand palm down on a table. Close your eyes and feel the sensation/s around the area of contact between 'hand' and ...

Hi Jon,


Is it possible to find an edge or line between these two?


No, it was clear to me yesterday it isn't today when I looked fresh. Can we just drop it?


Examine hearing now and see if there is a separate hearer, hearing that which is heard?


I can not find a hearer. Nobody is doing the ...

Hello Jon,

thank you for your swift reply.


Yes, that's a good working approach. Though I'm sure you notice that some thoughts do come and go?


Yes, of course.

Hmm, how about seeing ... of darkness?


Yes, point taken :-)


Here is another little exercise, this time with hearing

I have ...

Hello Jon,

ok, let"s get started.

So right here and now the words on this screen are seen. But what is it that is doing the seeing? Is it 'eyes' or the body that is 'me' that is doing the seeing? Is there an experience of 'eyes seeing' or is there just seeing happening? What's the direct ...

Hello Jon,

glad to meet you. I am happy to get going. Regarding the name I would like to keep it at Emanon if you don't mind

Yes, this feeling of being a separate self seems to reside in the body. Interestingly it is not always felt with the same intensity. I perceive it as kind of a contraction ...

LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this?
I understand that what I am referring to when I talk or think about I or me is kind of a fictional character. It is the identification with the life story, not a real entity. It is the thought ...