Hello Michael,

Thank you for your help in guiding me through the gate again. Things are getting a lot clearer again.
This way of writing back and forth seems to help a lot, and I will do as you have suggested, and go to the the gate forum again :)

You have clearly shown me what this post was ...

Hi Michael,

I think I received all of it. I read the document that was sent, but I didn't join the facebook group.

Vilhelm

Hi Michael,

There is no self, and there never is, but the felt center of self hasn't dissolved.
Please tell me more about this felt centre of self (which you have seen doesn't exist).

What is felt?

Where is it felt?
It is the feeling of attention being payed from a place in the head, that it ...

Hi Michael,

But the self hasn't dissolved
But you have seen that it doesn't exist, that it is just a thought story.

So how can it dissolve?

Remember there will always be a sense of aliveness or beingness (for want of a better word). There will also be "I" thoughts chundering along but as you ...

Hi Michael,

So there is an ongoing narrative constructed by thoughts with "I" , me, or mine in them. You have noticed that thought content is insubstantial / false / unreal.

Why then does an "I" though point to anything real?
It doesn't point to anything real. It points to an imaginary subject ...

Hello Michael,

See if you can notice the way thoughts claim an action and attribute it to the 'self'.
So for example if sensations of discomfort are building in the lower abdomen see if you can notice that you begin to move to go to the loo when the thought comes in; "I'm going to have a pee now ...

Hello Michael,

Not really getting clearer about experience. Just in the mode of looking at the moment.
Just looking closer at experience, and asking questions like "what is it," and "where is it?" :)

But is there anyone doing the "looking closer at experience?" Isn't experience just of looking ...

Hello Michael,

It may seem like that is happenning; but is it?

Or, as you have noticed, is it just thoughts claiming the experience?

It is simply implied to be happening. It's just a habbit of view.
Yes, self is simply implied to be real by thoughts about experience.

Vilhelm

Hello Michael,

It may seem like that is happenning; but is it?

Or, as you have noticed, is it just thoughts claiming the experience?

Looking closer at this.

Vilhelm

Hello Michael,

Is there anything having any kind of 'grip' on experience.
Experience is all inclusive, there is no here and there. Just this. Experience is just whatever is occuring, including whatever would have a socalled "grip" on experience.

Is anything else happenning other than experience ...

Hi Michael

Find out please. Are thoughts yours or do they just occur?
Is there an owner of thought?
There is simply the arising of thought, some image or language. When in direct experience they simply dissolve. There is just experience being known, and thoughts dissolving as they are arising ...

Hello Michael,

Find out please. Are thoughts yours or do they just occur?
Is there an owner of thought?
I'll take my time with this, and report back when something becomes more clear.

Find me anything that has a looser or tighter grip on experience!!!!!
Or is there just experience occurring ...

Hello Michael,

Do you see clearly that it is thoughts that label and claim?
Yes, thoughts indicate there being a thinker of this arising thought, and writing this there is a label upon that experience as being done by me. Not that this is obvious, or even noticed to be the case all the time.

Is ...

Hi Michael,

Good to hear from you again, I miss these back-and-forth style conversations with you :D
I am ready to get back to it!

Why don't you start by telling me why you believe you have a seperate self?
At the moment self just seems to be the default of how life is. Just me trying to do ...

As I wrote to you, I am in the system again, and would like to see the truth again. Thank you for being willing to continue this endeavor with me :)