Never mind. I'm done with this. I wasn't looking for an altered state of consciousness. I'm done here.

Is there anyone here who can help me? Or am I just wasting my time?

After some difficulty, I was finally about to see "cup" as meaningless lines. The only part of this that really struck me was how powerful the interpretative part of our mind is! And seemingly so automatic! My take away from this is that its much more helpful to "see through" the meaning assigned to ...

Hi John,

Considering the cup from direct experience, I would have to say there is no other side got the cup. Front and back make no sense either. Ultimately, there is no cup either, no separate object, by I may be going beyond the boundaries of this exercise.

What struck me with this was how much ...

Hi John,

I got your message, and I'm ready to proceed whenever you are!

Regards, Jim

Hi Leya, you can call me Jim. I will abide by the guidelines you set, as I want to give this an honest and authentic effort.

You asked, " Which one do you feel the stronger desire for, if we could magically grant it, which would it be?

I would have to say an awakening, because the end of seeking ...

LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this?
That what we believe and identify as the self is not the self. What we truly are cannot be objectified, and to identify it with anything in manifestation is to be deluded ...