Pal,

What is your depression want? Close your eyes, sit with it and talk to it like a long time friend. Ask it what it wants? Invite it in. It's been with you a long time, love it and thank it....talk to it and ask it why it hangs around? Is it protecting?

Kathy

Hi Pal,

"It's a lot of "I must this, I must that, I'm so this, I'm so that"." Can you see that this is old habit ? "only when I actively look, I see that there's no self here." How many years of conditioning did it take to get these habits established ? ..and how many years of reinforcement since ...

Hi Pal,

A couple of more questions from some of my fellow guides:

1.What is lacking in terms of being fully convinced of the absence of a separate self? Please do use your own words/style.

2. Can you clarify ...
"Then there is a lot of thoughts going on telling "deciding this, deciding that ...

Dear Pal,

One the guides has a question for you:

Regarding Q 5: Is a decision and intention any different to any other appearing thought. or are they also just thoughts which are labelled as a 'deciding thought/decision' and as an 'intention'?

Thanks Pal.

Kathy

Hi Pal,

Let's go over our final questions one more time.


1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it ...

Hi Pal,

Yes it's a dream that I still have, to wake up "completely" with a "big bang" like I believe Tolle and Katie did and be in total presence all the time. A dream to never suffer anymore. But I see that it can happen the other way, a gradual wakeup.

Do you know for sure that they have been ...

Hi Pal,

I've been caught in the story over and over again Where did the idea come from, that this wouldn't happen when you have seen through the delusion of a separate independent self ?
would express that I see the illusion when I consciously look, Does this mean that it's not an illusion when ...

Well If I'm not conscious how could I consciously look? I go into unconsciousness and don't see that I'm thinking and believing my thoughts. Then I wake up, usually because I experience pain.

Pal, it is my experience that once has a choice to look. We can choose where we put our focus. The ...

Yes when I consciously look. It seems I forget

So Pal, why don't you look consciously more?

I don't know. It seems it happens.
Are they really meaningless?

Please tell me? What is a thought? Where does it come from?

xoxo
Kathy

Pal,

How can you believe something that is known to not be real? Do you SEE thoughts are NOT real? They are JUST thoughts. They mean absolutely nothing!!! Not a thing! The good thoughts mean nothing. The bad thoughts mean nothing. Katie's work is all about that, revealing each though in the end ...

Dear Pal,

Thank you for your answers and forgive me for being away.

Your answers all resonate with me. Yet, Pal do you still feel there is an attachment to suffering?

With love,
Kathy

Hi Pal,

From the past conversation: What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?

And more questions....

- What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

- Can you talk about decision, intention, free will, choice and control? What makes things happen? How does it ...

Hi Peter, just checking in to see if you are still with us. Hope you are well! xoxo

Hi Pal,

How is it going?

Kathy

Hi Peter,

Your last comment had me cracking up. Nice one!

Peter, I have some more questions please answer fully, honestly (and simply) and from your own direct experience and seeing.

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2 ...