Hi Floris,

Just wanted to thank you again: it was a fun journey!

Best wishes,

Nil

Good morning Floris,

Could you please answer these questions again? Sorry!
Sure thing! Here goes:

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
There is no self, no me, no I. Never was. That is in direct experience at least. But ...

Good morning Floris,

Do you feel that something changed?
Again not really: experience is still going on.
The only thing that might be different is the relative disengagement I have with what arises in thought.

How are expectations going for you now?
I feel expectations has a broader range than ...

Good day,

This "self" that appears, is it an actual self, or is it the illusion of self ?
Nothing appearing within the thought realm is ever real. It's fiction. The thought itself is real, but its contents is not. I-thoughts and the like appear at times but there is no actual self, only an ...

Hey Floris,

So it's clear that I consists of thoughts ?
Yes, that much seems clear to me. Nothing else in direct experience says "me" or "I"!

...and you have a clear experiential result that only thoughts can be found that indicate the existence of a Self?
Yes, and there is a situation when it ...

Hello.

Can you find the you who perceives this all?
Without going into thinking, there is perceiving and... that's it... up until stuff gets interpreted and thoughts sneak in with a "me". Something I'm noticing lately is that there are a lot of nonverbal thoughts but they are not as obvious as ...

Hey Floris,

Actually I meant my question in a different way, like ´how would you feel if you let go of the illusion of control?'.
Well, I'd have to actually let go of the illusion to know how it felt. That being said, whenever I'm not thinking about it, I still do things and things happen and it ...

Good morning,

How did it happen that things have been seen as choice or control?
I imagine that the very definition of choice and control can't really exist without some kind of identification to an "I", "you" etc... As for how it happens we yet see them as existing things, to that I say ...

Hey Floris,

Your memories/stories are less shared then the stories of Santa, but what makes your memories more you than the stories of Santa?
The belief of ownership in those memories...

Are memories owned, or do they belong to anything? If I share the stories of Floris with you, why wouldn't ...

Hello Floris,

When children believe in Santa it may feel very real for them, they hear all kind of stories, can get very exited about any santa related. So they may really believe there is a santa somewhere, but there isn't, the stories don't point to anything.. Where does Nil point to?
The ...

Good evening Floris,

Okay, could you elaborate? What does that mean 'I is still here'? Are you talking about a sense of self?
Well the sense of an "I" is definitely here, and in particular whenever I interact with someone else. But I can't figure out if there is a difference between an actual "I ...

Hey Floris,

Sorry for the late reply...
And no it's not really related to seeing there is no self.
Hum... In that case, I guess I still have some residual assumptions/expectations...

did any real I get back?
I don't know if it's real or not, but I is still here, feeling like I'm walking in ...

Hello there!

That's a sticky one. I can't pinpoint the exact moment the decision is made. I can perceive the thought taking credit for taking the decision, but that's about it.
you have an assumption here which you would do good questioning, I trust you can find out which that is on your own, and ...

Hi Floris,

Did the palm up palm down thing and, while I fear it isn't much, here's what I got.
How is the movement controlled?
Without relying on thoughts, I don't know.

Does a thought control it?
Probably not. Thought says it does the controlling, but movement may occur without any thoughts ...

Hello Floris,

Let met try this exercise for a little longer and I'll report back.

Thanks!
Nil