Pete, many thanks for all your help.
I am about to send you a PM
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- Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:42 am
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
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- Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:12 am
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
- Replies: 35
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Re: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
Hi Pete,
No problem, and sorry for the oversite.
I am just going to do this off the top of my head; no system to it.
In respect of control and decision-making, you had given the task of raising an arm.
I had just before that given an example of a similar experiment I had picked up whilst reading ...
No problem, and sorry for the oversite.
I am just going to do this off the top of my head; no system to it.
In respect of control and decision-making, you had given the task of raising an arm.
I had just before that given an example of a similar experiment I had picked up whilst reading ...
- Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:02 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
- Replies: 35
- Views: 9360
Re: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
Hi Pete,
Thanks for this.
I will try to answer all in this post, but if a run out of time another will follow tomorrow.
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
No, this is now entirely clear to me, beyond doubt. Old patterns ...
Thanks for this.
I will try to answer all in this post, but if a run out of time another will follow tomorrow.
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
No, this is now entirely clear to me, beyond doubt. Old patterns ...
- Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:35 am
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
- Replies: 35
- Views: 9360
Re: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
Hi Pete,
Thanks for your long reply.
It was very helpful and has reassured me that the experience of seeing the truth of no-"i" - the particular way it has manifested itself for "me" - is, well, true. As has been said more than once here on LU, this is individual and different in everyone. My ...
Thanks for your long reply.
It was very helpful and has reassured me that the experience of seeing the truth of no-"i" - the particular way it has manifested itself for "me" - is, well, true. As has been said more than once here on LU, this is individual and different in everyone. My ...
- Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:36 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
- Replies: 35
- Views: 9360
Re: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
Hi Pete,
A bit later than usual today: it's been a hectic day at work today...
With 'you' revealed as a thought story, what remains?
What remains is all this stuff happening, appearing and disappearing.
All objects, phenomena, happen, do their own thing, and they appear in direct experience ...
A bit later than usual today: it's been a hectic day at work today...
With 'you' revealed as a thought story, what remains?
What remains is all this stuff happening, appearing and disappearing.
All objects, phenomena, happen, do their own thing, and they appear in direct experience ...
- Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:11 am
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
- Replies: 35
- Views: 9360
Re: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
Just to clarify:
>For DE of sensations (i.e. feelings, touch), the answer is no.
Meaning: I don't find a body...
>For DE of sensations (i.e. feelings, touch), the answer is no.
Meaning: I don't find a body...
- Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:02 am
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
- Replies: 35
- Views: 9360
Re: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
Further observations.
To experience the body I rely predominantly on sight and touch.
Touch is divided into kinaesthetic and touch proper.
(Maybe better: somatic sensations --> touch + kinaesthetic, it doesn't matter)
If I close my eyes and rely on touch and KE, then I do not experience my body.
I ...
To experience the body I rely predominantly on sight and touch.
Touch is divided into kinaesthetic and touch proper.
(Maybe better: somatic sensations --> touch + kinaesthetic, it doesn't matter)
If I close my eyes and rely on touch and KE, then I do not experience my body.
I ...
- Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:04 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
- Replies: 35
- Views: 9360
Re: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
Thanks Pete, for getting back to me without waiting for a second post.
This I feel is an important juncture in our investigation and so it's best to go slowly.
I want to get (or rather: see!) this right.
I will pick up your new questions and leave the previous one I left unanswered to one side ...
This I feel is an important juncture in our investigation and so it's best to go slowly.
I want to get (or rather: see!) this right.
I will pick up your new questions and leave the previous one I left unanswered to one side ...
- Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:32 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
- Replies: 35
- Views: 9360
Re: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
Hi Pete,
Just when I worried that things are moving to smoothly...!
This is a difficult area for me.
As I start typing now, I realise I am a bit constrained for time today.
I will likely reply in 2 posts.
Also, your 2 questions are in many ways different and I need to give them both time.
i'll ...
Just when I worried that things are moving to smoothly...!
This is a difficult area for me.
As I start typing now, I realise I am a bit constrained for time today.
I will likely reply in 2 posts.
Also, your 2 questions are in many ways different and I need to give them both time.
i'll ...
- Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:27 am
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
- Replies: 35
- Views: 9360
Re: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
Apologies if the following seems pedantic, but I always need to really be sure that what you're telling me (and not just you, anyone that I'm guiding) is based solely on direct experience
Yes, please do come back to this again and again.
I am aware that I can easily skim over things...
However ...
Yes, please do come back to this again and again.
I am aware that I can easily skim over things...
However ...
- Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:22 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
- Replies: 35
- Views: 9360
Re: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
It's clear that when we breathe, blink, digest food etc. there's no 'I' involved, but how is it for you when walking?
How is it when doing various everyday things like say, brushing your teeth, washing up, that kind of thing? Try all kinds of stuff.
Is there any 'I' there for any of these actions ...
How is it when doing various everyday things like say, brushing your teeth, washing up, that kind of thing? Try all kinds of stuff.
Is there any 'I' there for any of these actions ...
- Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:55 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
- Replies: 35
- Views: 9360
Re: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
it made me think that this could be either the "I" or be caused by an as yet unseen "I"
I understand what you're saying, but notice that interesting though it is, again, this is about thinking rather than direct experience.
This was about the senses.How true it is! Since then, it is becoming ...
I understand what you're saying, but notice that interesting though it is, again, this is about thinking rather than direct experience.
This was about the senses.How true it is! Since then, it is becoming ...
- Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:11 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
- Replies: 35
- Views: 9360
Re: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
Okay, so here goes.
Hi Pete.
I think you're right, I am overcomplicating things.
And also you're right in this being a "gentle" exercise.
It is almost like a "relaxing into" seeing/hearing/etc.
One of the reasons I am cautious, is because I know I can fool myself into believing anything (well ...
Hi Pete.
I think you're right, I am overcomplicating things.
And also you're right in this being a "gentle" exercise.
It is almost like a "relaxing into" seeing/hearing/etc.
One of the reasons I am cautious, is because I know I can fool myself into believing anything (well ...
- Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:01 am
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
- Replies: 35
- Views: 9360
Re: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
I'm not happy with what I posted about the looking exercise.
It sounds contrived and not genuine.
Re-reading it, it looks too much like I was trying to achieve a certain result (based on what I think I know).
Also, extrapolating from another modality (hearing), I moved away from direct experience ...
It sounds contrived and not genuine.
Re-reading it, it looks too much like I was trying to achieve a certain result (based on what I think I know).
Also, extrapolating from another modality (hearing), I moved away from direct experience ...
- Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:19 pm
- Forum: ARCHIVES
- Topic: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
- Replies: 35
- Views: 9360
Re: Moving from conceptual knowledge to direct seeing
oops, "there is no eye" should read "there is no i".....

