Hey Bill. As I said to Kevin, what gate? What a trip. I'm at a horse show right now, will check out other areas tomorrow. Sitting here, lookng, listening. Sigh. Thanks again.

No. Nothing to add. I'm really good with what is. Peaceful maybe., even with any ups and downs of thought or emotions. And thank you for your patience and time.

Ah. Just read. Let me review

Hey Bill. Just got back home. Am copying to phone and will post when done.

Is there anything you're still seeking or searching for?
no. Haven't in a while.

Every expectation gets in the way of simply seeing what is.
They are about the future... seeing what is cannot be found there.

Any more expectations floating around?
No new ones. Even the expectations, there was ...

I'm sorry Bill. I've been checking all day but didn't think to see if there was a page 2 until just now.

And as a reminder, I probably won't be back on til late night or tomorrow.

The operant word to me in that is 'saw'
I have noticed many have this same experience here.
Im not sure I would consider the moment of seeing, a thought.
Sure, any reflection back on it would be.

Can you 'see' this now by looking again?
If you look, can a self be found anywhere, other than a ...

How do we know it?
What makes it known?

I was going to say the seeing makes it known then realized that would be a memory, which is a thought so ha. I know nothing.

Seeing makes a difference also a thought.

What is the difference between an understanding of no self being here...and actually seeing it?
Is there any difference?

Yes, there is a difference. It's the knowing that there is no self. It's not hypothetical. It isn't someone else telling me something that I understand. Even when I get caught ...

"That phrase I wrote 'jumbled mix of memories of....?' For years I used it to explain who we are, why we are the way we are. It was a huge factor in no longer easily getting upset over others. But I didn't see that it was who we are not. Thoughts about. How can I be a memory of?"

I'm not getting ...

Morning Bill. I'm hoping I did the quotes correctly. Had to hand type them

Tell some more about 'thoughts about'.

Who I think I am, what I thought was me, are only memories of past experiences. Nothing solid, nothing concrete. Memories. I actually saw this years ago, reading threads on LU: "Holy ...

I'll write tomorrow Bill. Late here. Hope you have a good night.m

Hey. I had no interest in enlightenment. None. About 5 years ago I was in an emotional upheaval and looking for a song online. I came across an archieved radio broadcast, 45 minutes long, got curious so downloaded it , put it on a cd and one day listened to it on my way to work.

It was Eckhart ...

Hi Bill.