It was my pleasure to guide you Nancy! Thanks.

Thank you Petrus! It was a wonderful experience. :)

Still some questions about control:
Observe closely while you pick up an empty cup, turn it upside down in the hand, wait a moment, and then place it back in position, right side up.

Did 'I' pick up the cup? Or turn it around? Or place it back down precisely?
Is it possible to carry out this task ...

Is there control or not?

There is no control, meaning the ability to influence or steer actions, thoughts, emotions, or lives.

Does control require a controller?

No, control does not require a controller. There is no self, therefore there is no controller. Even if controlling is happening, it is just happening. No controller.

Actually, there are several groups to join.

Yay! Looking forward to it!

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

There is no separate self at all, ever! Never has been.

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate ...

This whole time I've been waiting for a reply and just noticed it's on page two! Ok I'll get back to you soon, thanks Petrus!

Hi Petrus,

I think I am confusing thoughts/feelings with un-seeing a separate self!
Maybe so. Feel and see for a while...

Ok will do.

It also said doubts could arise, which is what I'm getting now.
Doubts are just thoughts with nasty feelings accompanying them, arent they?

Boy that's the ...

Hi Petrus,

What does the body consist of in actual experience?
It's the feeling of aliveness, that's it!
So, this socalled body is only a bunch of experience of pressure here or maybe pain there, and somtimes you doesnt even feel a body! Do you agree?

Yes I agree. What we call a body is really ...

So far, so good...:)

Yay!

With the eyes closed, sitting still, notice the other sensations: hearing, smelling, tasting, touching.


Can it be known how tall the body is?

No.

Does the body have a weight or a volume?

It seems to have none!

Is there a boundary between the body and the ...

...but when thoughts are rambling on then I'm not really feeling the body, I'm in my head!
Not in your head, but in thought, right?

Oh yes that's correct. In thought.

Bring your awareness....
Knock, knock, who is there to bring awareness somewhere?

Right! There's not a self to bring ...

Hi Nancy,


Hi Petrus!

They (thoughts) seem to originate in the middle of my head
Is that really so?
If there is thinking, is there experiencing a body in the same time?


They seem to be mutually exclusive. When I really feel the awareness in the body then the thoughts stop, but when thoughts ...

Ok lets start!

Thank you for this opportunity, Petrus! I appreciate it.

By the way, I am Dutch, so English is not my first language!
What about you?

I am American. We have a neighbor that's Dutch, she is fluent in 3 languages. I wish I knew more languages!

Where do thoughts come from?

I ...

Hi Petrus!

Yes please, that sounds fantastic!

Nancy

I stumbled on the LU website two years ago and immediately knew that "no self" was the missing piece of the puzzle. Shortly thereafter I had a number of Oneness experiences. I've been listening to the audio steadily and got the LU book over the holidays last year, but I'm feeling like the no-self ...