Is there doing, which would imply a doer, or is there only flow/life happening?

There is tripping over words... No doer. Definitely flow. Expressing it is difficult, and I (not I) most definitely have not settled into it yet. Today I was very disoriented in the grocery store where I have shopped ...

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Have a look at how choice seems to come up (or not) and decisions are made throughout your day and please report back on what you find.
On observation and examination it is really about doing and not so much about choosing. And to clarify, it's not a self doing, but being the doing. There is a ...

Beautiful! I am happy to keep on exploring THIS with you, but the way you wrote your last post, I think "you got it" - if thats possible at all :-)

What we normally do here at LU, once the separate self has been seen as illusory, is to ask a few final questions and then offer you to join the LU ...

Do you feel we should explore/probe some more into that? Do you feel any doubt or questions arising?
Do you see that this separate "I/me" ever only was a story, a concept and not a separate entity that lives a life and controls events?
My relationship with food just changed in the blink of an eye ...

also try to "widen your focus" of attention. Whenever you focus on, lets say a sound, be also aware of the sensory input from your body etc... see how that works.

Focussing on a part of experience works a bit like a flashlight in a dark room, doesn't it? But does this mean that whatever is ...

Have a look at your direct experience. Do objects exist in pure seeing, hearing, smelling, feeling? Or is "This is a car" always only a descriptive thought, making sense of the experience based on a certain color/shape/sound combination?

In direct experience, is there a difference between "This is ...

When you are dreaming.. there is this character that is identified as "I/me", right?
He sees objects, he hears, smells, feels and thinks... He sees objects and touches them - they have a certain texture, they feel heavy, don't they?
Are there "real" objects in a dream? What is the difference ...

When you look at things from the point of view of a subject that is separate from objects out there - as we have learned to do since early childhood - then yes, sure, it is an undefined object. But, is this also what direct experience reveals?

When does something become an object... is space an ...

Alex, I watched American Sniper today and it dredged up more stuff than I anticipated. I'm going to let that stuff dissipate for a day before I get back to our work.

Thank you.

John

Sound is generated by objects... what exactly is direct experience of objects?
When you hear the sound of a bird, but not the bird, is the information "this is a bird" a property of the sound? Or is "this is a bird" only a thought about an experience?

The sound is experienced, but the ...

Yes, the separate I/me is only a belief based on many years of conditioning and identification. How to penetrate these defences... simply by seeing that they are only beliefs and conceptual stories. Every time they show up, see them for what they are and the defence system will become weaker and ...

Yes and no. There is direct experience of thought, isn't there, otherwise you could not even experience any thought... But: What happens is that we only see the concepts and labels that describe the experience instead of the "real" experience. This is where things can go wrong. You think you know ...

I spent some time with taste during the drive in to work this morning. Taste is instantaneous. Tongue touches object and tasting happens. No border, no distance, no delay, no taster.

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