Seeing through the self doesn’t mean that the illusion will never reassert itself again. As long as it’s seen for what it is it’s not a problem. My point of view is that I can help anybody only to the extent of my own seeing. If I cannot see something for myself, I’m unable to help, and I might even stir the conversation into a wrong direction (according to my own beliefs).Either the „worldly self“ or the „spiritual self“ were believed in automatically, doesn’t matter the direction of the coaching. I could see this in my clients as well as in myself…..
…..maybe you got an input for me on that topic too? Don’t want to go into thinking my way through it and instead look for the one who has these problems…. until now it still seems impossible…
Yes, exactly. The looking goes on since the self hasn’t seen through completely. It’s there as awareness. This search willYes - even if it means a lifetime of looking? The quality of my looking has already changed since we started our dialogue, but I’d say that I have been looking already for many years - not finding the self for 20+ years and still there seems the possibility that maybe someday there is a self to be found.
Actually while writing this, I realize that I had the impression of having found my self as „pure awareness“ already. That may be the problem.
So to answer your question: Yes, I’m definitely up for that!
Is it totally clear that there is no such thing a chooser?last until it gets utterly clear, factual on the gut level, that there is neither a self, nor an independent awareness.
As a thought that claims responsibility, but behind this thought, there is no entity. There is only the thought „I’ve done it“.
Is it totally clear that there is no such thing as choice or free will?
If not, please write some examples when it seems to be otherwise.
Let’s start to investigate the body and sensations. The illusion of the self is not just simply coming from thoughts, but also from the belief that “I am the body” or “I have a body” or that this or that sensation is ‘me’ or the location of the ‘me’, or that this or that sensation is happening to ‘me’. So the thought label ‘this is me’ and the appearing sensations are welded together, creating a ‘sense of self’.
Sit with eyes closed for about 15 minutes.
Paying attention only to the pure sensations, without relying on thoughts or mental images:
Can it be known how tall the body is?
Does the body have a weight or volume?
In the actual experience does the body have a shape or a form?
Is there a boundary between the body and the clothing?
Is there a boundary between the body and the chair?
Is there an inside or an outside?
If there is an inside - the inside of what exactly?
If there is an outside - the outside of what exactly?
What does the word/label ‘body’ ACTUALLY refer to?
What is the ACTUAL experience of the body?
Look very carefully, especially with the last question. Take your time, don’t rush. You can look several times during the day while doing other things (like washing hands, showering, having a short break from work, walking, etc) before replying.