Great!
Here are the final six questions ... please answer them as you always did
during this dialogue; LOOK, feel, and answer only when you're 100% sure - no speculations. :)
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
6) Anything to add?
Peace,
Bananafish
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Re: Seeking out
No, not in any shape of form, other than thought. I don't know if there ever was since all I can observe is 'now'.1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
It's a bunch of thoughts which give the impression of a 'me/do-er' and an 'everything else'. The illusion takes hold when thoughts are mistaken for real experience and start to build on each other.2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
Pretty much the same, but there is a growing awareness that the "I" is an illusion. When the truth is seen it's like there is an automatic letting go and acceptance.3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
The realisation that I wasn't acutually looking, but thinking about looking!4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
Decision, intention, free will, choice and control are all thoughts which say that the separate self is in control of things. It isn't.5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
Nothing can be directly seen to make anything happen, it all happens automatically as part of the the 'system', where everything is interacting.
I am not responsible for anything, since "I" don't exist. Responsibility is a thought pattern, which is in turn part of the 'system' of things working.
Example: I try to control something and get frustrated. Then realise there is nothing I can do, and stop. Later I try again and it works, and I think "yay I did it". Then realise there was no "I" that had a part in the success - everything played out exactly as it should on it's own, just with lots of thoughts about "I".
Thanks for all your time. Bringing these realisations into 'normal' life seems like the big challenge now.6) Anything to add?
Oliver
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Greetings, Oliver. :)
Thanks for your answers.
I'll have my peer guides take a look at our thread and ask if they have any questions.
Please wait for a while.
Bananafish
Thanks for your answers.
I'll have my peer guides take a look at our thread and ask if they have any questions.
Please wait for a while.
Bananafish
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Hi Oliver!
Other guides don't have any questions to ask.
Congrats on your successful journey, Oliver!
I will send you a private message, so please take a look at it.
It was my pleasure to be your guide ...
Thank you.
Bananafish
Other guides don't have any questions to ask.
Congrats on your successful journey, Oliver!
I will send you a private message, so please take a look at it.
It was my pleasure to be your guide ...
Thank you.
Bananafish
ZOOM session (4 am JST, every morning):https://us04web.zoom.us/j/4277950472?pw ... NNbTdOUT09
Email: swinganova@hotmail.co.jp
Website: https://en.modernkoanproject.com
Email: swinganova@hotmail.co.jp
Website: https://en.modernkoanproject.com
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