Well if that was the shift in those 3 minutes, it was not so subtle. Though the change since is indeed subtle, not always noticed, but always there.Good stuff! Yes the shift can be really aubtle and be see seen only when looking back..
There are a lot of changes. This is going to be a long message, I'm sorry, certainly don't feel like you have to read it all. When someone does this to me, I just skim it. :) But since you asked, and since I'm required to be honest, here we go:Can you look back and tell me, what is different since we started this conversation,
Thoughts are a different animal than they were. Often they are noticed (as thoughts), where they weren't before. They've lost some of their power. Not seeing the same thought keep coming back all the time. It's more like they come and go, and when recognized as thought, they aren't seen as anything special.
I get a kick out of watching this body on automatic, watching it think it's making choices and so on. Hopefully in time this will happen more often (the noticing), as it is fun to watch when noticed.
There is rarely boredom. I'm completely satisfied to just sit/stand somewhere and watch or listen to whatever happens to be present, so long as it's not painful.
The self is on notice. Its understood that its never been there, but there's so much momentum behind it that there's not expectation that those thoughts are just going to disappear right away. It doesn't seem reasonable that a 40-year old fictional self from a conditioned brain is going to just vanish immediately.
The issue of free will seems to have cleared up. I suspect there would have been some trouble accepting this one, had there not already been a head start on it. I watched an hour long video on by Leo Gura on the subject to free will (long before we started this, on YouTube). That has left me with "okay we probably don't have free will" ever since. In the last week, you really nailed that point home, leaving little doubt.
Work doesn't seem as important or urgent. Not sure this is good, I've got clients to keep happy and there are bills. I'm just kind of trusting that life will pull me back into it when it's where the attention should go.
I'm less important than before. Seems like this guy isn't anything particularly special at all. Hope my family doesn't agree!
When looking and seeing we're experience rather than the objects of it, it either brings tears or a small laugh. I'm not prone to either, so this is a change.
This is irrelevant, but I don't think it's just coincidence. I have no experience with lucid dreams, and had one two days after we started this process. Being fully cognizant in a dream is mind blowing. It was simple, just me in the kitchen, but such an interesting experience. The meaning taken from it was that something was starting to be rewired.
I don't expect anything from you. You have already done so much. Any expectations mentioned below are for this guy, not you.what hasn't changed and what you hope/expect would change.
I don't have any idea what the gateless gate is all about. The only gates I've seen around here are the ones in the background of this website and the one in the photo next to your name above. Not sure I get it, but makes me think I've missed something.
I came here to see truth of no-self, and I've seen it. It's not fully sunk in or noticed as often as I'd like, and my hope is that it will.
There are real changes, but also doubt about whether anything is permanent or not. That leads to more doubts. At the same time, when thinking subsides, so does doubt. I suppose only time can tell. We've been really focused on this here for more than a week, so it's always on the mind. What happens when it's no longer front-and-center of attention? I'm hoping these realizations are really hammered in and won't come loose!
I'm still full of questions. I'd like to be able to say "I have no more questions." However, the questions no longer seem quite as important, but they are still there. When thinking is quiet, that may be where "no more questions" are found. This is the answer to the questions. So can see there's still work to do here.
I don't understand what's so funny. I hear when people fully understand the truth, they can only laugh. I would like to be let in on the joke so that I can have a good laugh too. I have chuckles, but no ROTFL moments, making me think I haven't gotten the joke yet.
Worry and anxiety are still present, though without the same bite. Time will tell on this one, as there's not much to worry about at present.
I still believe in God, and get the sense that maybe I shouldn't? I'm not talking about a bearded man in the sky, but God as life itself, as All That Is. I can see that we can't possibly be separate from "All That Is", otherwise it would only be "Some Of What Is." But still feel like I need to let God be God, whatever that may be. I'm not looking for this to change, just looking to let things be as they are there, whatever they are, I don't need to know.