What change is expected? Specifically what or who is going to change?I understand that I is just a pointer, now as for any kind of shift in the way I am experiencing everything, nothing has changed.
What 'I' is experiencing?
You have my great respect for doing so. I was never a religious person, and so it was never much of a hurdle to get through.Christianity is a heavy thought to leave behind. It baffles me to think there is no God at all, other than this chaotic energy that happened to form everything by chance, which is a possibility.
The mind (thought) always wants answers and definite things to land on.
Also, it can only deal with separate stuff - Individual objects - Labels - Qualities - Descriptions.
When it begins trying to examine some-sort of absolute - Like 'everything', it begins to struggle.
So it is very easy to think of a 'thing' (God) that made everything and controls everything. Easy for the mind to grasp. For people to understand.
I think that the Bible and Christianity began with an element of truth but became confused.
For example, when Jesus said 'Before Abraham was, I am', I take it to mean that he understood that whatever he truly was, was not a limited body and mind that was born and would die. What he really was, was something that is not separate from everything else, and something that wasn't limited or 'time bound'.
It would - And there are groups who talk in the 'third person' all the time. It really doesn't help.There's no point really, I was mostly just having fun with this new way of thinking. It would prove difficult indeed to talk in that manner all of the time.
Beautifully clear! :-) ♥Feeling a hard push from you on this one. 'I' is not something real. 'I' is just a thought, a pointer. What started this conversation, what started the search for an 'I'? It just happened like everything else. There's no separate self to be found, only thoughts and ideas about one.
Who is going get something experientially?It seems I understand the concept logically, but not experientially.
I think you are already there! And at the same time, you realise there is no separate you 'there' :-)