You seem to be quoting the entire last response. Would you please mind quoting ONLY the question that you are referring to... If you refer back to your previous responses you quote the entire block and it is difficult to separate what you have said. Just quote ONLY the question I have posed, and then your response, then quote the next question, and then give your response.
what is 1 + 1
the answer is 2
what is 2 + 2
the answer is 4
instructions are here, the in the link below this line:
http://liberationunleashed.com/nation/v ... ?f=4&t=660
I would finally be at REST, PEACE.
There is no such "I" that can ever be at Peace or at Rest :)
LOOK DEEPLY at this "I"... is it there?
will an "I" ever be at Peace?
can a "You" ever be at Rest?
I just seems logical if there is an experience there need to be an experiencer, how subtle that experiencer might be. Without that, what is that Absence that experiences that experience. I am bevildered.
This isn't about logic :) I think you are still identified with thinking. Read the follow article:
http://this-is-cosmik.blogspot.ca/2012/ ... ughts.html
Are YOU the thinker of thoughts?
Can YOU think and choose a thought?
In terms of this "what is the Absence that experiences that experience"... what if experience was self-aware?
what if in the seen, there is only the seen, no seer?
what if in the heard, there is only the heard, no hearer?
what if in the felt, there is only the felt, no feeler?
what if in thinking, there is only the thought, no thinker?
what if in Experience, there is only Experience, no experience-er?
what if 'this'...
it may seem as if there is a separate "You" that is aware of "this"
yet there is no such thing
there is only the appearance of a Bjorn,
that appears in and of this.
in 'this', there seems to arise
...thoughts, sensations, buildings, tables, chairs, floors, trees, birds, flowers, music, ships, stars, sun, moon, walls, cups, Bjorns, cosmiKs, computer screens, fingers, bodies, people...
yet there are no such things,
just the appearance of such,
which arises in and of 'this'
there is never a "You" that is separate from "this"
just the appearance of a "you" that arises in and of "this"
"this" is self-aware
and you are "this"
Walking is happening, observation of walking happens.
Is there anyone or anything observing?
Pick an object. Look at it.
- is there a "YOU" looking?
- is there just the seen?
Close eyes. Listen to sounds around.
- is there a listener of the sounds?
- is there just the sounds?
Refer to Direct Experience, no speculation.
Often what happens is that a sound is heard, and then a thought says "I hear it", or attention moves to another part of Experience, perhaps a sensation of "head" or "eyes" or "body" and then we label that "hearer" or "seer" or "me", but that is also just Experience, also part of the perceived.
Check for yourself and get back to me,