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Re: No one here

Postby melessnow » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:54 pm

I am aware that I exist somehow as something having some sort of experience

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Re: No one here

Postby Bananafish » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:56 pm

Who is that “I” that exists and is aware?

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Re: No one here

Postby melessnow » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:00 pm

When I look for the I that is aware and exists all I find are thoughts about what I believe make up that I. I cannot find "I"

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Re: No one here

Postby Bananafish » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:02 pm

What is the “I”?

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Re: No one here

Postby melessnow » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:13 pm

The only answer I come up with is "I" is an imagination. A bunch of memories I have of past experiences and conditionings that I have been subjected to.

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Re: No one here

Postby Bananafish » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:17 pm

Again, those are ideas about I.


What is the I when you write
“The only answer I came up with?”


Right now.


Look at it. Vocalize it.


What is it?

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Re: No one here

Postby melessnow » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:28 pm

The I that is writing this reply has to be something and the reason we are having this converastion "I" is not this body or this mind or these thoughts but then what I am left with is no thing. SDo my answer would have to be the "I: is no thing that I can name. I would like to express my gratitude for the time you take to assist all those you are aiding in their search. I am sure it is time consuming and not always pleasant.

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Re: No one here

Postby Bananafish » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:34 pm

No problem at all. :)

I’ll be back after work.

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Re: No one here

Postby Bananafish » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:35 pm

Still, your answers are all ideas.

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Re: No one here

Postby Bananafish » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:18 pm

Again, what is the I, here and now?

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Re: No one here

Postby melessnow » Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:51 pm

I don't seem to be getting anywhere with this question. One more shot at the answer. The I that I am experiencing right now is an independent personality built on memories and learned concepts housed in a separate body.

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Re: No one here

Postby Bananafish » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:24 pm

No. Those are mere ideas.



And good, you're not getting anywhere.
You don't have to get anywhere. Where do you want to get,
first of all?



Just stay with the question and see what comes up.
You haven't chewed the question enough.

It must be something like you want to swallow but
you can't, so stays somewhere inside your throat.



Where is that "independent personality built on memories and learned concepts housed in a separate body?"
right now?


Would you like to point at it?
See it, hear it, smell it, sense it.


How do you perceive it?

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Re: No one here

Postby Bananafish » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:25 pm

Who are you?

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Re: No one here

Postby melessnow » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:41 pm

Is there really an answer to this question. Lao Tsu said the Tao that can be named is not the real Tao

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Re: No one here

Postby Bananafish » Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:05 pm

If you really want to know what is true,
you won’t be satisfied with some
secondhand sayings by a semi-fictional person.


I’m not asking for Lao-tsu’s opinion.


Who are you?

What is it that’s trying to answer it?


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