The previous reply and this one were written without enough sleep, and being tired makes it harder to do these experiments and write properly. Hoping the next reply is written with more alertness.
Does the label ‘fear’ know anything about fear, or is the word just a bunch of letters?
The label does not know anything about fear. The thoughts that are appearing here do not naturally take the form of written letters (more often spoken words and images of other things, but not letters). Seeing the word fear as a set of written letters, it is obviously a label in the literal sense, like how a sticker with the word “banana” could be placed on an apple. The label can be completely independent of the experience and can’t be relied upon. So it cannot be said that the label fear “knows” what fear is just like a sticker on an apple doesn’t know anything about an apple.
Is the label ‘fear’ itself fearful?
The label is not fearful, of course not. The label is claiming to describe something that it is not itself. The label fear is like subtitles on a movie; the subtitles are not the movie itself they are just describing what is happening in the movie. Subtitles are not dramatic or funny, and likewise labels (like thought) are not sad, happy, or fearful.
Can you find anyone/anything in the word itself that is fearful?
A concept or label does not have attributes, e.g. fear. Thought can only be about other things but can never be anything other than a thought, period. There is nothing in thought to feel fear. In other words, there is nothing substantial in the dimension of thought to feel anything, including fear. Thoughts only exist as ideas, abstractions, concepts, and have no grounding in reality beyond that, and no independent existence of their own. Therefore, they cannot experience anything that is not pure thought, including fear.
Does the sensation itself suggest in any way that it is fear or that it is fearful?
No, the sensation itself does not suggest that it is fear or that it is fearful. Thought is what swoops in with a theory, an interpretation, that what is being felt is fear. Just like the color of seeing a hand and the sensation of feeling in a hand are independent of each other, all sensations in the body are entirely separate from thought.
Does the sensation itself know anything about fear?
No. Fear is a label, and sensations do not experience or suggest anything, including labels. It is just a sensation.
Can you find anyone/anything in the sensation itself or behind the sensation that is fearful?
There is no one and nothing behind the sensation that is fearful. The sensation itself is felt, thought creates the label fear, and when their separateness is not seen an illusion is seen instead, the illusion of their being something called fear that is experienced by something/someone.
Does the image/outline itself know anything about ‘fear’.
Of course not. A picture can’t know anything, including fear.
And then look to see if there is anyone/anything in the colour that knows anything about ‘fear’ or that can be ‘fearful’.
There is no one and nothing in the image of the body that can be fearful. The idea of a someone who exists and who has a body and whose body feels fear is a story of thought. Without thoughts, there is no one to exist and no one to interpret and label the sensations felt in the body as fear.
Let me know how you go.
When it is forgotten to go through the steps, the mental images seem real and seem to really provoke a sensation in the body that is labeled as “fear” by the mind. When the recognition that they are thoughts comes back, there is an ability to be with them without anxiety. When anxiety comes in, it can also be tolerated and seen through but it feels a hell of a lot better if that’s done while remembering it is just a thought. Being lost in a mental image is quite uncomfortable if there is a loss of contact with the part of the seeing that sees it as a thought only.
So, is there actual experience of ‘fear’ or what is actually appearing (AE) is label + sensation + colour + thoughts ABOUT fear? Is 'fear' actually known?
There is not an actual experience of a singular, definable thing called fear. Rather fear is the label given to an amalgam of experiences (like in the equation you wrote). It seems as if it is possible to forget this, and for fear to seem like an actual experience, and that it is also possible to remember this, and see the sensations and thoughts as independent and fear to exist only as a thought about a diverse set of sensations + more thoughts.
Are they both experienced? What is experiencing them exactly? Where does sensation end and the feeling of sensation begin?
Experienced implies an experiencer, so a better word might be sensed. Not sure if that is what is being pointed out. There is no definable place where sensation ends and the feeling of sensation begins, although I am not sure I understand the question or the difference.
Does the sensation have a location?
The only location is “here” unless we bring in thoughts and concepts (like “foot”). Otherwise, there is just a sense without an ability to put a place to it.
Now re-write what you wrote without all those “I”’s.
Thought itself is not controlled by anyone or anything, apparently. What happens, happens independently of thought.
I watched the hand video on YouTube. The identification with the rubber hand may be as illusory as identification with the physical body.