Yes…lovely, there are thoughts ABOUT a ‘me’Not in my direct experience. I can't find a me, so I can't find an inside or outside either. There is sometimes a thought of "me."Is there an inside ‘me’ and an outside of ‘me’?
So was anything found/seen that was actually hearing sound?
NiceWithout thought it cannot be known that a combination of AE makes an apple. An apple is not known, but colour is known and thought is known.However, without thought, how is this known…that a combination of AE makes an apple?
However, is an apple actually known?
Good to know :)My willingness to question my beliefs is a ten because I am willing to question all beliefs and because I am willing to question any belief. Also, my willingness to share my beliefs so that they can be questioned is a ten.There is no one experiencing anything…and certainly not experiencing something called an apple. You can’t have it both ways. You either want to see the truth or you want to hold onto what you think you know and believe. You wrote that your willingness to question your beliefs were a 10, from a scale of 1 to 10 on your registration form. Is this actually true?
Yes, the word ‘apple’ TRIES or SEEMS to describe experience. And that is a clue that it is simply a thought story. THIS/experience itself cannot be described.What is known is color, taste, etc. Thoughts are also known. The word "apple" is shorthand for a collection of experiences that include colors, tastes, etc. An apple doesn't exist, but the word describes the experiences.Is an apple actually known?
Try and describe the colour brown and try and describe it as if you are describing it to someone who has never seen.
Try and describe the smell labelled as ‘rose’ or the taste labelled as ‘banana’.
Can experience ie sound, colour, smell, thought, sensation, taste be described?
What senses exactly? That means that there are actual objects that are being sensed by someone/something? Where is this something/someone located?An apple is known by the senses. Taste “tastes” an apple, smell “smells” an apple, etc.If it is..by what exactly? (And please don't say by the Brettself or some deity etc)
You did the headphone exercise….was a hearer found who was hearing sound? Was there an inside and an outside of a ‘me’? If not, then how is there a taste that tastes, a smell that smells etc?
The knowing of what IS, doesn't come through the senses. 'Sensory' experience is the knowing. There is no division between knowing and known. Just as there's no division between taste and sweet. There is an implication in your answer that 'taste' and 'sweet' are known separately through a sense called 'taste' that can distinguish tastes like sweet and apple for example. 'Taste/sweet' IS experience and it's not known through anything or by anyone. Taste/sweet are one and the same thing. Don't get caught up in this. It will become clearer as we move through this exploration.
Great! If there is no ‘you’ as a separate self…then why would there be others who have separate selves?I am not sure and adamant. I have doubts that this is the way things actually are. That is why I am at LU. My approach is to share my beliefs so that they can be questioned.-Yep, okay, if you are so sure and adamant about that, then what are you doing at LU?-For Brett, there is the experience of thought coupled with the experience of the senses. neither of those exist for anyone else. Therefore, the unique and exclusive awareness of those thoughts and sense experiences = Brett.
Let's look at how beliefs work.
Notice a sound in the distance. It could be anything - crickets, the wind, a dog barking, a train. Let's say it's a dog barking.
So it seems like a person is listening to a dog...
Here is a partial list of the beliefs involved
1) there is a dog
2) the dog is some distance away from you
3) you (a person) is listening to the sound
3) using a pair of ears...
4) ...and a brain...
5) ...inside your head.
But notice that all that is *actually* present is the sound.
Everything else is just story - the dog, the distance, the person, the ears, the brain, the listening, and the head.
There's just a sound appearing in the dream. (and a fancy story to go along with it)
Try that with other sounds and see how you get on.