Thank you for writing down your fears. These fears are just negative expectations about how seeing through the self would be like or feel like. These negative expectations are nothing else than beliefs.
Staring blankly into space when someone asks a question, or not being able to function with people if this constant stream of thought is not paid attention to or obeyed.
There is ALREADY no self there.
So if seeing through the self would mean not being able to function with people and just staring blankly into space, then this ALREADY MUST BE the case.
Since there is ALREADY no Gwen there. Gwen NEVER EVER has been there. So do you stare blankly into space when someone ask a question?
There is no self already, so are you unable to function with people?
Another thing that it wants to protect me from is not having all the access to the information that it's providing at work, where decisions must be made quickly, and information needs to be remembered.
This body labelled ‘Gwen’ is already EMPTY of SELF. It has always been.
And yet, it has always been able to function in a work environment. And the plain RECOGNITION of this fact that there is no self in this body won’t change anything… since there has never been a self there. Can you see this?
I'm just realizing that this wouldn't change though. It's not that thoughts stop happening, but that the identification of "me" or "Gwen" would not be there. Hmmmm.
Even the identification won’t stop completely. However, upon looking it will be clear that there is no self there, and there’s never been.
This exploration is just a beginning and not an ending. The core belief of being a separate self is seen through but there will still be beliefs and patterns that are rooted in the idea of being a separate self that will need clearing, as not everything gets rewritten in one big hit. It SEEMS that identifying as the separate self shows up again and again along with feelings of resistance, doubt, frustration and confusion. This is known as yo-yoing and happens to everyone and is normal. Continuing to LOOK after the realisation is very much the key.
That "poof", just like that - Gwen would be gone. Cease to exist.
It’s LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE for Gwen to cease existing, since Gwen has NEVER EVER been there.
Which has never been there cannot cease to exist.
Gwen has always been just inferred, assumed by thoughts, but has never been a reality.
There is nothing that could die or cease to exist.
There is no self that could die.
Just because the self is seen through, nothing will die, since there has never been a self there in the first place.
There is no self that could be annihilated or killed.
The only thing that changes is the RECOGNITION that there has never been a self there.
But nothing else will change.
The sense of self will still arise. The illusion of the self will still be there.
So nothing will be lost, only a belief in the self will fall away.
No stories, no attachments to family or friends.
Attachments won’t be affected.
There is already no self in the body and still there is attachment to family and friends.
If seeing through the self would mean no attachment to family or friends, then it ALREADY HAS TO be the case, since there’s already no self that could attach.
But just because there is no self that could attach to anything or anyone, it doesn’t mean that seeming attachment to people and things are not happening.
So just as it’s happening now, it will still happen after the recognition of no-self.
Feeling? Are you sure that ‘being extinguished’ can be FELT?
The feeling of being extinguished.
Is this actually a FEELING?
Or is it rather a THOUGHT believed (taken seriously, instead of seeing it only as an arising thought)?
This doesn't seem true to me. It's not that my family and friends are going to cease to exist.
Yes, this is not true. Just as your other fears. These are just pure fantasies.
So at first, thoughts create a frightening story/fantasy about how seeing through the self should be like and feel like, and then it tries to protect its invented character (Gwen) from this dreadful story. Can you see this?
I could see that it didn't seem true - that if there were no "Gwen", things would change, but also things would also not change. That "Gwen" that "I" THINK is me, is just ....... um ....... nothing? A collection of concepts and beliefs that has no basis in fact.
This is exactly what we are investigating here.
Thoughts are constantly talking about and on behalf of ‘me’.
But is there an ACTUAL me that thoughts are referring to?
One little housekeeping note - I don't seem to be getting emails from you after you've posted to my answers. Not sure if this is a glitch.
Yes, sometimes this happens, I don’t know why. Most of the time I reply back within 24 hours, usually sooner, so if you don’t see any email notification, please check it in the forum.