Boundaries meaning separate body, furniture, etc. I generally am in and out of two states.
it is not so much about meaning, that would be thought.
Look in direct experience (= sensation, image, sound, taste, smell + thought (but not content of thought)) if you can findany kind of "boundaries" .
tell me what you find!
One state is my body, stuff around me, separate entities and all that. The other is emptiness/void where nothing and everything is and there are no boundaries and separate walls between things.
We try to leave the idea of states beside for a while and look later on what it's all about.
For now just look what you find in direct experience. You can do that any time!
What you say "direct experience" -- for me it is just experience just before mind kicks in labelling/ layering with thoughts.
direct experience = sensation, image, sound, taste, smell + thought (but not content of thought)
can you find anything additional? or different?
but indeed you are right, lables are part of thought.
when saying "hearing a bird", then "bird" is part of thought.
But we need them to communicate. So how else would you tell me about your experiences.
So it is sufficent that we both know about that. So then we can use a term like "hearing a bird" to describe a direct experience. Hope you see what I mean?
"my leg" is when the mind kicks in (as I say above) labelling -- oh this is my leg, part of my body, etc
thats right. So "I, me, my" is part of thought?
Prior to that in direct experience I would say it is a leg without the "my" labelling. I guess even saying "leg" is labelling
yes, as discussed above.
what is the direct experience? look, and tell me! can a leg or a body be found in direct expereince? Or is there just sensation? Could it be that "leg", "body" ist thought and cant be found as an "entity" in direct experience?
look and tell me what you find!
but somehow, I find "my leg" labelling more "painful" than "leg" labelling. I use the word "painful" to mean something like degrees of separation. I feel more separated from the depth/ the inner when I get into the world of "my" -- which seems to be what happens through just living every day.
Tell me if this "painfullness" is all thought or sensation or both?
Hope I am able to convey. I am not in the habit of writing such things down.
Yes I think so ... I guess we found some interesting aspects to go deeper!
PS: next 7 days I am on a business trip. I will try to answer daily, but it could be that there are some delays. So don't worry, I m still with you!