Thanks a lot for the answer.Hi Matthew
Yes hearing can be very revealing. As you say, seeing sometimes seems more 'controllable' with eye rolling and so on...( Though close examination can reveal no control or controller of seeing.).. It seems like the hearing is just something that happens, disconnected from the I. Its much more effortless than seeing in some way since eyes can be controlled to focus on different things, but hearing cannot in the same extent. Although i can also shift focus on different thing when hearing. Or is that just thoughts occupying my mind?
Yes it does. This is important. Noticing how thoughts 'talk' about direct experience. Notice that thoughts very often refer to 'I' or 'me' as some kind of objective entity. But is seeing or hearing experienced by an experiencer? Look again at these immediate sensations and perhaps also touch, taste and smell.. But you mentioned thoughts. I noticed that what im hearing is just like seeing but thoughts always comes in and explains in words or mental pictures what im hearing. The experience is direct but thoughts distract it, making it focus on certain sounds. Does that make sense?
Thoughts are often about a 'me' that is supposed to be 'experiencing' sensations. But what if immediate experience just happens... Including the way thoughts just appear... but 'self' appears as an idea (in thought) but not as a fixed entity that is separately experiencing experience?
All the best
Yeah, I have tried to look and observe for the last days.
I have come to the following conclusion. Yes it seems (just as before) that the immediate experience of seeing, hearing and sensations are not experienced by a "doer", and this is the same with thoughts as well. I see it, but at the same time I have a hard time separating thoughts from the experience if you understand. I mean when I think about it and observe it is obvious that no control is happening, but at the next moment when something happens, a problem at work, a personal problem comes to mind, I feel like there is a controller (me) who is pulling the strings, trying to solve something, schemeing for the future, etc.