There are several exercises in this post. Please take your time and do them carefully...and please....no assumptive or intellectual answers. Answer from LOOKING and diligent observing.
Not necessarily. It can via thought story be linked to certain parts. So e.g. if there's an itching somewhere then it's known where it is by interpretation, means by thought story. Or a pain. The experience itself doesn't have a location but thought story immediately links it to some part.Does experience itself have a location?
Not necessarily or no, experience does not have a location? Which is it?
Yes, so there are thoughts (which include ‘mental images’) about ‘your face’ but when you look, no face can be seen.No. With closed eyes a vague memory picture of my face pops up and disappears. Then nothing. Then again some image of memory of face in the mirror. Then again nothing. Etc.Point where others see your face.
What do you see? You are now looking inwards – turning the direction of your attention round 180˚ from the objects out there to you the subject, to the place where it seems you are looking out of. Do you see your face? Do you see anything at all there - any colour or shape, any movement?
I would like you to go look in a mirror and tell me what the actual experience is.
Without thought saying so…how is it known that you have seen your face in the mirror before?Then again some image of memory of face in the mirror. Then again nothing. Etc.
When is that so-called ‘memory’ actually appearing?
Exactly. It is appearing in the moment it appears. It is only a thought that suggests you have ‘remembered’ something from the past. Memory and past are pointers to time and time does not exist.No. It's fresh every time.“Memory sensation” is AE of thought. It is thought naming/labelling something...in this case a sensation. Does a sensation know anything about ‘memory sensation’?
And is this “vague awareness” an actual feeling or is it a thought?No it hasn't any knowledge of these. It’s a vague awareness of the topic of the threat if at all. But no memory of any single thought in between or a series of thoughts.Now when we look at this, do we find thought 27 has any knowledge of any of the other thoughts, let alone all of them? It seems that way, but when we look closely, what is found?
So let's investigate your assumption that "tension can appear triggered by a certain situation or thought about a situation”.The tension can appear triggered by a certain situation or thought about a situation. No, the sensation itself doesn’t know about the past. No the thought as such doesn't know but a story is there which repeats itself.When is that ‘tension’ actually appearing? Does the sensation labelled as ‘tension’ know anything about the past? Does thought know anything about the past?
1. Put aside 10-15 minutes and sit quietly with your eyes closed.
2. Think of a story that brings up the sensation ‘anxiety’ (or any emotion) - one that you can feel in the body but not too intense that it overwhelms you.
3. Then with eyes still closed, I want you to LOOK very very carefully to see if you can find/see an actual link between the thought and the sensation. You are looking to find if there is something that links the thought/story with the sensation.
4. If the sensation starts to dissipate/weaken, then bring the story to mind again until the sensation is felt, then continue looking to see if you can see/find a link. You are looking for an actual link that connects the thought/story with the sensation.
5. If you find yourself following thought instead of looking carefully for the link, just bring your attention gently back to the sensation and continue looking.
Do this exercise at least 3-4 times throughout the next 2-3 days making sure to look very carefully.
Let me know what you find.
Where exactly is this body-mind? What is the AE of body-mind?No there’s no separate self nor a thought as self. Something is known in the overall entity conventionally called body-mind which is useful in day to day life.Are you thinking because you are aware of all of this...and 'you' as a separate self are a thought, then it is thought that knows things?
You are throwing out answers you think you know again without LOOKING.
There is a huge difference between I do not exist and the I does not exist. Once you have clearly seen through the nature of thought...we will start to look at this.
And there is an assumption…”possibly triggered by circumstance”. So a thought would have to be aware for it to know that something has triggered it to appear. So, I am back to asking you the same question. Where is thought hiding or parked ready for it know when it is needed to appear. As you can see, we are going round in circles. You keep replying with the same assumptions and I keep questioning your assumptions with pointers and you keep answering them with the same assumptions.No need for thoughts to be parked somewhere. It just appears. This hasn’t been my assumption. Thoughts just appear possibly triggered by circumstance. And disappear again.Where does thought park itself ready to appear when a sensation labelled ‘tension’ appears? How does that thought know when to appear? And if that thought is parked somewhere waiting for a sensation to appear to match its label and stories, then where are all the other thoughts parked waiting to do the same thing?
In order that we stop going round in circles…you need to become aware of thoughts.
Here is a step-by-step description of how to look at thoughts. First thing is to sit for at least 10-15 minutes quietly somewhere, several times throughout your day. Close the eyes and just notice thoughts. Don’t engage with any thought, just notice them.
Looking for the gap is a way to slow the thoughts, as the objective of this exercise is to observe each and every thought as it arises and subsides.
1. Notice the current thought that is present.
Like when you sit observing the body, a thought might arise “this is my feet” or “here is a pain” or “my breathing is too quick” or “I am bored with this exercise” or “I have better things to do” or any sorts of thoughts.
2. This thought will pass and another thought will come. So just observe this thought passing.
3. Then wait for the next thought to come.
4. When the next thought is present, just notice it, and see how it passes.
5. Then wait for the next thought to come.
6. Repeat #4 and #5 many-many times.
Between the 2 thoughts there is a gap. It can be very short or subtle, just a second or a few seconds before the next thought come in.
This is how to look at thoughts.
Looking how they come and go.
And observing the short gap between them.
Noticing how the current thought is passing.
And waiting for the next thought to come.
Please do the following exercise:
Throughout your waking day, try to observe the gap between thoughts as often as possible. It can be done by noticing that ‘thinking’ is happening right now, then stop and just simply wait for the next thought to come. In the ‘waiting’ there is a gap between two thoughts.
Let me know how you go.
Could a thinker of thought be found between the gaps?