Your replies were very helpful, thank you.
Look very carefully with EACH question. Not just once, but repeatedly. You can spend 2 days of looking before replying. There is no rush, just be very-very thorough. Watch out for any mental image that might arise, and see what is really there when mental images are ignored.
Now look very-very carefully. Look for the me which the body belongs to. Look everywhere. If it exists any way, then it has to be found. So where is the owner of the body exactly?No, it doesn’t feel like I am the body – it feels like the body belongs to me; that it’s “mine” somehow. It’s intimate, close, here – whereas other bodies are “not here”.
What is it exactly that is experiencing the body from the inside?This body is the only one that is experienced “from the inside” – all other bodies are experienced differently. Far away.
Is there ANYTHING inside the body, or of the body then sensations? – look very carefully
Find the border between inside and outside. Where is the border exactly?
What is the AE of inside?
What is the AE of outside?
And inside of what exactly?
Pay attention to the sensation labelled ‘face’.
Investigate the border of the sensation. Thoughts and images ‘say’ that where the face ends, at the same spot or line the outside world starts. Try to find the edge, where the sensation labelled ‘face’ ends, and the sensation of the ‘world’ begins.
Is there a sensation for the outside world at all?
Is there a sensation for ‘air’?
Is there another sensation for ‘skin’?
How many sensations are there?
Now pay attention to the sensation labelled ‘face’, where it ends (where the ‘outside world’ begins).
Can you fine an ending line for the sensation labelled ‘face’?
Does the sensation labelled ‘face’ ends at all?
In order to say that there is inside and outside, both of them has to be found. You have to be able to find the edges of inside, and you also have to be able to find the edges of outside.
Can you find the edge of inside?
Can you find the edge of outside?
Can you find any sensation that is the ‘outside world’?
If this me really exist it has to be found. Otherwise, how would you know that experience is happening to ‘me’ if you cannot even find yourself?It does feel like experience is happening to “me”, but that “me” is not the body. The “me” can’t be found as anything else, either, though.
Pay attention to a sensation. And now turn the attention to the one, to the me that is experiencing that sensation. Where is the experiencer?The body, at least the visual perception of the body, seems to be experienced by me – it is not the experiencer.
All right. So let’s say there is a sensation labelled ‘discomfort’.There does seem to be identification with the body sensation, however. My happiness is heavily influenced by the state of the body sensation (discomfort, pain, etc). When something hurts the body, it hurts “me”.
Where is the one that is unhappy because of the sensation labelled ‘discomfort’?
Where is the one that could be happy or unhappy? – find it
So here you say that there is an identification of the sensations labelled body. But a few comments above you wrote: “it does feel like experience is happening to ‘me’, but that ‘me’ is not the body”.But the sensation of the body, I can tell, is still a major identification.
So now which one?
Do you see the trick of thoughts?
The trick is, that there is an underlying belief that the sensations labelled ‘body’ is inside or coming from the image labelled ‘body’. Can you see this?This body is the only one that is experienced “from the inside” – all other bodies are experienced differently. Far away.
And since it’s believed that the image labelled ‘this body or my body’ contains the sensations labelled ‘my body’, thus is the mental conclusion that the image labelled ‘other body’ is experienced differently, since the sensations contained in the image labelled ‘other body’ is not experienced by ‘me’ or not available to ‘me’, only the sensations contained inside this image (this/my body)”. Can you see this?