This question has just made me see that I had another expectation from this process that I didn't realise. I am expecting a feeling of "aha!" to arise at some point. When I really see 'it'. The reason I noticed this now was because I can agree there isn't anything noticing the cup. But there is something missing because it still feels like I believe that rather than having seen it. I haven't yet fully seen it. And the reason I believe I have not seen it is because no "aha!" feeling has yet arisen. I will keep examining my direct experience of the cup.Can you notice now that there is nothing noticing a cup?
Because we imagine / believe a self is there folk use words like awareness, consciousness or mind.
But can they be found?
When I examine this again, like with the cup, there seems to be just the sensations and thoughts built from those. Awareness can only happen in relation to some sensation or thought. That being the case then awareness does not have a separate existence itself - i.e. it does not exist. It is a concept built from those initial sensations. Same for consciousness or mind.
The examination of the previous question above also answered that - there only appear to be two because perception only appears when sound appears. However of course only the sound has independent existence. Awareness / consciousness / Perception etc is like a shadow of reality. Real things can cast a shadow but the shadows themselves cannot exist apart from the thing that made them. Maybe that's what Plato was talking about haha!You then go on to say "Perception is one and the other is the sound. This makes two".
Have another cheeky listen. Is ther really two?
Honestly, no I can't find anything else. I am going to sit with this some more...When you relax and just listen and look is there anything more than whatever appears, whether that is sights, sounds, smells etc and then thoughts simply occuring as well?