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Nicodemus
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Re: Realizing Truth

Postby Nicodemus » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:50 pm

Yes, all there is is existence, being...
Being doesn't require beings or labels to exist, it simply is. It is all there is.

But this recurring thought always comes: my experience is finite, there are things beyond what i see and experience and am aware of, so how can there be not various selfs or beings in Existence?

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Re: Realizing Truth

Postby Ilona » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:12 am

What is that says “my experience”?
Investigate, is experience owned by you? Where is the line between my experience and not mine?
Is there inside and outside experience?

This video may help to see what is going on and where
https://youtu.be/_w0wnR72604

Love

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Re: Realizing Truth

Postby Nicodemus » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:05 pm

It's the I idea-character that says 'my experience'. Now that i think about it, perhaps this 'I' idea really exists, though it's this awareness, all this awareness and not just a smaller part of it related only to this body and mind.
Yes, there appears to be some 'experience' that is just mine or experienced by me, and not by others. The line that separates the experiences of different beings is blurry, and there are shared experiences or parts of experiences, though there are also experiences of a single person.
Seems almost self-evident, from just being alive in this world, that there are indeed inside and outside experiences.

Thanks for the video, you had already showed it to me in the past. I've watched it again and it is beautiful and inspiring.

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Re: Realizing Truth

Postby Ilona » Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:33 am

Here is something for you to play with.



In the seen, there is only the seen,
in the heard, there is only the heard,
in the sensed, there is only the sensed,
in the cognized, there is only the cognized.
Thus you should see that
indeed there is no thing here;
this, Bahiya, is how you should train yourself.
Since, Bahiya, there is for you
in the seen, only the seen,
in the heard, only the heard,
in the sensed, only the sensed,
in the cognized, only the cognized,
and you see that there is no thing here,
you will therefore see that
indeed there is no thing there.
As you see that there is no thing there,
you will see that
you are therefore located neither in the world of this,
nor in the world of that,
nor in any place
between the two.
This alone is the end of suffering.
In the seen, there is only the seen,
in the heard, there is only the heard,
in the sensed, there is only the sensed,
in the cognized, there is only the cognized.
Thus you should see that
indeed there is no thing here;
this, Bahiya, is how you should train yourself.
Since, Bahiya, there is for you
in the seen, only the seen,
in the heard, only the heard,
in the sensed, only the sensed,
in the cognized, only the cognized,
and you see that there is no thing here,
you will therefore see that
indeed there is no thing there.
As you see that there is no thing there,
you will see that
you are therefore located neither in the world of this,
nor in the world of that,
nor in any place
betwixt the two.
This alone is the end of suffering.

See how everything looks through this lens. Play with this for a couple of days and then write to me, what did you notice.

Love.


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