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by Purpleturtle
Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:53 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 176
Views: 6988

Re: Pay Attention

Hi Vivien, At the end, please write me how did you go observing each thought as it arose, and observing the gap between thoughts when sitting silently? While sitting and observing thoughts keep coming, including thoughts about observing thoughts. There can be an infinite regression of thoughts about...
by Purpleturtle
Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:47 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 176
Views: 6988

Re: Pay Attention

Hi Vivien, I have been continuing to look, using the pointers you have given me, and I have been having some reactions to looking, which I am also looking at. So just sit down, and notice how the seeming self appears. Where does it seems to be? Where I notice the seeming self is in the pressure betw...
by Purpleturtle
Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:25 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 176
Views: 6988

Re: Pay Attention

Hi Vivien,
Thank you for this it is most helpful. I am continuing to look into whenever, and however this sense of me/I comes up, or whenever I remember (whoever or whatever that is).
Keith
by Purpleturtle
Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:39 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 176
Views: 6988

Re: Pay Attention

Hi Vivien, But have you checked in experience? Again and again and again? Hundreds of times? I haven’t counted. Obviously not enough yet. I continue to check. Isn’t this contradicting your above statement that you haven’t seen this? When I wrote “not as far as I can tell” I meant to convey that alth...
by Purpleturtle
Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:07 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 176
Views: 6988

Re: Pay Attention

Hi Vivien, Yes. It’s the same with thoughts. Thoughts comment on things and ADD a lots of stories which actually don’t happen. Can you see this? Yes, I can see this, and when they tell a story about something that does happen they claim they did it. For example if I think “Let’s have a cup of coffee...
by Purpleturtle
Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:42 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 176
Views: 6988

Re: Pay Attention

Hi Vivien, Can you see that “I am hearing a sound” is just a thought narration on hearing? Also, “I am noticing a thought” is just a thought narration (like subtitle) on knowing the presence of a thought? Yes, I can see that these are comments on experience that sort of turn it into a thing, or try ...
by Purpleturtle
Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:35 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 176
Views: 6988

Re: Pay Attention

Hi Vivien, Please describe this ‘subtle sense or thought that I am there looking at them’ as precisely as you can. But be careful not add anything extra there is not there in reality :) Just checking in. What I can find so far is a background running commentary of thoughts with content like “I am he...
by Purpleturtle
Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:17 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 176
Views: 6988

Re: Pay Attention

Hi Vivien, So please only write what is 100% true in your experience, all right?/quote] All right. I'll do my best. I can't guarantee 100%. Who / what is thinking that thought?/quote] I don't know. The thought arises and the quality of sensations changes without the actual sensations being different...
by Purpleturtle
Mon Feb 01, 2021 4:14 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 176
Views: 6988

Re: Pay Attention

Hi Vivien, No, there is only an I when there is a thought of an I. Including the thought ‘I am looking’. Can you see this experientially, or this is rather an intellectual understanding? It’s mostly intellectual, an idea rather than directly seeing, but not completely. “I” continue to look, and look...
by Purpleturtle
Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:21 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 176
Views: 6988

Re: Pay Attention

Hi Vivien, Are you sure that there is an I, without having a thought which contains the word ‘I’? No, there is only an I when there is a thought of an I. Including the thought ‘I am looking’. Who/what is there to accept that there is no real I? Ha! got me there. The idea of an I trying to accept tha...
by Purpleturtle
Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:48 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 176
Views: 6988

Re: Pay Attention

Hi Vivien, Sorry for the delay in replying. I seem to need longer than a day to inquire with these questions properly. Yes! This me-ness, or sense of self/I is nothing else than an ordinary sensation, and only a thought labels is, more precisely, mislabels it as a ‘me’. Can you really see this? Not ...
by Purpleturtle
Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:50 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 176
Views: 6988

Re: Pay Attention

Hi Vivien, Continue observe this sensation and notice what it is you can discover of this sensation only as feeling/sensation only. What do you find? Do you really find Keith there? I notice a sensation which changes, it can be tight, it can loosen and be more open, it can feel painful, it can not b...
by Purpleturtle
Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:01 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 176
Views: 6988

Re: Pay Attention

Hi Vivien, I thought I would check in. The sensation that I keep coming back to when I look for this “I” is a pressure or knot like thing between my eyes and just above them, and back a bit, or sometimes sort of bulging from my forehead. The experience is of tension, and can be painful like a headac...
by Purpleturtle
Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:33 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 176
Views: 6988

Re: Pay Attention

Hi Vivien, When I pick up a glass it feels differently to me than when I see someone else do it. What does the word I in the above sentence point to? And what does the word ‘someone else’ point to? To this body and that body over there? I in that sentence points to the experience of picking up a gla...
by Purpleturtle
Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:18 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 176
Views: 6988

Re: Pay Attention

Hi Vivien, What if the subject-object split is just superimposed on the inseparably of experience? What I mean by that? That maybe there isn’t an object (experience) + a subject (an experiencer behind the head somewhere)… Rather there is just experience itself. The closest I come to seeing this is w...

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