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by happening
Sat May 28, 2016 12:34 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Understanding but not really seeing
Replies: 74
Views: 9895

Re: Understanding but not really seeing

We don't have to stop talking, there are Facebook groups for LU members that completed the process, there is another part of forum that will open for you when your name turns blue. There is much to explore and sometimes it's really helpful to have support. You know :) Thanks, that's great! So there...
by happening
Thu May 26, 2016 9:28 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Understanding but not really seeing
Replies: 74
Views: 9895

Re: Understanding but not really seeing

Can you say with a big fat YES, it's clear that separate self/I is an illusion? So long as it's not asked first thing in the morning, a definite YES for this one. It is clear. Is it obvious at all times? Of course not, but there's also never been that expectation. The illusion can be seen through w...
by happening
Thu May 26, 2016 5:24 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Understanding but not really seeing
Replies: 74
Views: 9895

Re: Understanding but not really seeing

A correction to the 3rd example written directly above. Mental energy must have been low, as I think that "survival" thing was taken a bit too far there and reads a bit silly on reading it again. Maybe everything that happens with the body is aimed at that in some form or another. But in this case, ...
by happening
Thu May 26, 2016 3:00 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Understanding but not really seeing
Replies: 74
Views: 9895

Re: Understanding but not really seeing

Write lots! This isn't a good way to get rid of the thinker Ilona! But you asked for it. :) I'm treating this as an exercise to explore understanding of free will. A lot has been written below, but it's not there with any intention to please you (and feel free to skim it or jump to the summary). In...
by happening
Wed May 25, 2016 9:55 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Understanding but not really seeing
Replies: 74
Views: 9895

Re: Understanding but not really seeing

Great questions! Work got busy today and didn't leave enough time to give a proper reply, as these aren't easy questions. But I've got plenty to write on this, and it's a good opportunity to explore. Rest assured, if there was any kind of free will here, work would have had to wait! :) Real response...
by happening
Wed May 25, 2016 2:23 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Understanding but not really seeing
Replies: 74
Views: 9895

Re: Understanding but not really seeing

Continuing from above. Something found here in the last day is that there are no questions in the moment, in this, in experiencing. No questions can be found there. Just checked. What question could there be? As soon as there are questions (even that question), it's only in the non-existent self, pa...
by happening
Wed May 25, 2016 1:41 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Understanding but not really seeing
Replies: 74
Views: 9895

Re: Understanding but not really seeing

Thank you for your reply. So much good advice, I appreciate it. Below is a comment from my previous message (I'll skip the quote function so it doesn't get confused with your words): "I mean deep down, can we ever truly trust anything at all? Maybe a flaw here." On further reflection, the only thing...
by happening
Wed May 25, 2016 10:59 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Understanding but not really seeing
Replies: 74
Views: 9895

Re: Understanding but not really seeing

:) it's a gateless gate, meaning that there is no gate. Nothing to cross, no one to cross it. It's a metaphor for seekers journey where seeing dissolves seeker. You are not miss anything, there is nothing there other than this, right here right now. No step journey, from here to here. Thank you, I ...
by happening
Tue May 24, 2016 10:52 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Understanding but not really seeing
Replies: 74
Views: 9895

Re: Understanding but not really seeing

Here's the "too long didn't read" (tldr) version. Seemingly years worth of largely good change in just a few days, sometimes recognized, sometimes not, but present when really looked for. Some things still soaking in, hoping they stay. Seeking has gone up, attention increased, because there is recog...
by happening
Tue May 24, 2016 7:33 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Understanding but not really seeing
Replies: 74
Views: 9895

Re: Understanding but not really seeing

Good stuff! Yes the shift can be really aubtle and be see seen only when looking back.. Well if that was the shift in those 3 minutes, it was not so subtle. Though the change since is indeed subtle, not always noticed, but always there. Can you look back and tell me, what is different since we star...
by happening
Tue May 24, 2016 1:44 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Understanding but not really seeing
Replies: 74
Views: 9895

Re: Understanding but not really seeing

Something to add after a walk outside. Briefly, the search did stop last week. I'm no expert on this subject, but pretty sure it was found last week. Didn't want to say so, because you are the expert. I said it was profound, but am not suggesting something blissful, but rather something surprising. ...
by happening
Tue May 24, 2016 10:44 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Understanding but not really seeing
Replies: 74
Views: 9895

Re: Understanding but not really seeing

So is there a separate self? Aka I, that is running the show? No there isn't. This is realized, but has not fully sunk in. It will. I mentioned that statement of yours ("Don't think about it, look") because I'm easily stuck there. My job involves a lot of thinking... yet when immersed in my job, th...
by happening
Tue May 24, 2016 10:00 am
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Understanding but not really seeing
Replies: 74
Views: 9895

Re: Understanding but not really seeing

What is controlling brain? It's a neural network, among other things. It's controlled by its conditioning. And that conditioning comes from experience, environment, life, evolution, and I guess you could keep chasing this to the big bang. So you've got me, yes it's one with the rest of life. There'...
by happening
Mon May 23, 2016 9:26 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Understanding but not really seeing
Replies: 74
Views: 9895

Re: Understanding but not really seeing

How to see or feel it? Do you expect a special state? You already see and feel it and always have. Thank you, that's all I needed is to hear that. I don't expect anything special. Actually, I'm certain we're talking about something not-special, just ordinary, given that it's always there. When is i...
by happening
Mon May 23, 2016 5:40 pm
Forum: ARCHIVES
Topic: Understanding but not really seeing
Replies: 74
Views: 9895

Re: Understanding but not really seeing

Let's examine this closely Being (verb), presence, aware aliveness is I- thought, imagined entity, separate self- is not. In a sense that it does not exist in actuality and is only found in imagination. Thanks, understood. I think I misspoke before when I said "what is what". The difference is know...

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