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by forgetmenot
Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:33 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Ldub & Forgetmenot
Replies: 76
Views: 2007

Re: Ldub & Forgetmenot

Hello Lisa, Welcome back to the land of technology…I hope your travels are going well! Nice job at looking at the body! :) There's the experience of 'sadness' (sensation, thought labeled 'sad' or 'loss') as I went through this exercise. I know this is a normal part of the process as you've told me b...
by forgetmenot
Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:28 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Ldub & Forgetmenot
Replies: 76
Views: 2007

Re: Ldub & Forgetmenot

Hi Lisa, Is it an actual sensation or is it something along the lines of the idea like “this feels like space because it is light and empty” as opposed to “this doesn’t feel like space because it is full of heaviness”? Do either of these ‘feelings’ have an actual sensation, or are they more so, thou...
by forgetmenot
Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:35 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Ldub & Forgetmenot
Replies: 76
Views: 2007

Re: Ldub & Forgetmenot

Hey Lisa, Lovely post to read. Thank you for taking the time to reread your thread. I am very happy that you found some clarity! :) It took me going through the entire thread over the last 3+ hours to this very moment, to be able to say - thanks for bringing out the zen stick. Fuck! I see where thou...
by forgetmenot
Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:50 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Ldub & Forgetmenot
Replies: 76
Views: 2007

Re: Ldub & Forgetmenot

Hi Lisa....thank you for letting me know.

Kay
by forgetmenot
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:54 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Ldub & Forgetmenot
Replies: 76
Views: 2007

Re: Ldub & Forgetmenot

Hello Lisa, It's time I bring out the zen stick. Look again….are not thought and the knowing of thought instantaneous? Is there really a time lapse between thought and the knowing of it? Can a thought appear without the knowing of it? Are you able to separate a thought from the “knowing” of it? When...
by forgetmenot
Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:18 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Ldub & Forgetmenot
Replies: 76
Views: 2007

Re: Ldub & Forgetmenot

Hi Lisa, Where does a thought end, and the knowing of it begin? Is there a border between a thought and the knowing of it? Is there a distance between a thought and the knowing of it or is that just an imaginary distance? The thought happens, and the knowing of the thought happens next. There's no b...
by forgetmenot
Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:07 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Ldub & Forgetmenot
Replies: 76
Views: 2007

Re: Ldub & Forgetmenot

I'm still sitting with this - I will respond tomorrow. Definitely see that there's a desire to identify as something here. . . I'm seeing that if 'I' identify as 'Awareness' instead of 'I' then the identify just gets shifted, but there's still a separation. Yes. Calling yourself Awareness and not I...
by forgetmenot
Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:36 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Ldub & Forgetmenot
Replies: 76
Views: 2007

Re: Ldub & Forgetmenot

Hi Lisa, The thought keeps coming - why in the world would awareness want to have these thoughts? Doesn't it have anything better to do? And here is the idea that there is an awareness, which is a some thing that is having thoughts/thinking thoughts! Where can this awareness be found exactly? Descri...
by forgetmenot
Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:21 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Ldub & Forgetmenot
Replies: 76
Views: 2007

Re: Ldub & Forgetmenot

Hi Lisa, And so you are waiting for this to happen and when this happens you will know that you have realised that there is no separate self? I'm actually hoping for the reverse. That the realization of no separate self is what helps to facilitate the surrender to what is. So what exactly is it that...
by forgetmenot
Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:54 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Ldub & Forgetmenot
Replies: 76
Views: 2007

Re: Ldub & Forgetmenot

Hi Lisa, So I want you to see what the expectation is. What do you expect/think/want/hope will happen when you look and cannot find the "I" as it is thought to be? Be honest with yourself here. The hope is that by realizing there's no 'I', that the perception of an 'I' that's been grasping to contro...
by forgetmenot
Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:20 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Ldub & Forgetmenot
Replies: 76
Views: 2007

Re: Ldub & Forgetmenot

Hi Lisa, So when breaking anxiety down...did you find an "I" anywhere in the sensations and thoughts that was experiencing anxiety, or all that was found was experience itself with thoughts about an "I"? No, I didn't find an 'I' anywhere. . . So I want you to see what the expectation is. What do you...
by forgetmenot
Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:12 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Ldub & Forgetmenot
Replies: 76
Views: 2007

Re: Ldub & Forgetmenot

Hi Lisa, So, is there actual experience of ‘anxiety’ or what is actually appearing (AE) is label + sensation + colour + thoughts ABOUT anxiety? Label ‘anxiety’ is known and thoughts about ‘anxiety’ are known, however, is ‘anxiety’ actually known? No, I see the AE of anxiety is sensation, thought, th...
by forgetmenot
Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:57 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Ldub & Forgetmenot
Replies: 76
Views: 2007

Re: Ldub & Forgetmenot

Hi Lisa, What part of the body did you point to? What sensations did you feel in your body that identified "I/me”? I was drawn to the sensation of pressure in the head. But I 'know' that sensation doesn't contain 'I', 'head' is only thought and 'pressure' is a label of sensation. So make it a habit ...
by forgetmenot
Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:20 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Ldub & Forgetmenot
Replies: 76
Views: 2007

Re: Ldub & Forgetmenot

Hi Lisa, Exactly. So can you choose whether your awareness is all on thoughts at any given moment, which thoughts then postulate as there being a you who is lost in thought? Is there a you, who then, somehow brings your awareness back to something other than thoughts...or does that just simply happe...
by forgetmenot
Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:38 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Ldub & Forgetmenot
Replies: 76
Views: 2007

Re: Ldub & Forgetmenot

Hi Lisa, If you can't choose what you're aware of, then what else is there to choose? Ha! Nothing. . . Exactly. So can you choose whether your awareness is all on thoughts at any given moment, which thoughts then postulate as there being a you who is lost in thought? Is there a you, who then, someho...

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